Nitrous question
#1
Turbo VTEC-E
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Memphis
Posts: 1,520
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Nitrous question
Ok i was just curious. What is being refered to when a nitro shot is labeled as 75,100,or 200? Is that about how much HP is gained with that set amount of Nitrous?
Never have messed with the stuff and don't really plan to but i would just like to know.
Never have messed with the stuff and don't really plan to but i would just like to know.
#3
Stock Block Killaa
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: VA,NY
Posts: 1,576
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Nitrous question
Usually most of the time you will at least gain what the shot is advertised for example when i was running a 125 shot on my car i gained actually over 125rwhp and over 150rwtq then when i bump my shot up to 150 i never got to put the car on the dyno but im sure it was making close to 550tq because on 125 shot it put down 511tq on very shitty bottle pressure.....
#5
Racetracks
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: How long is a piece of string?
Posts: 15,668
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Nitrous question
It's an estimation of the power you'll gain based on the nitrous jet size, etc., but that's a really rough estimation. THere are a lot of factors that play into how much power you'll actually gain, like engine efficiency, etc. A Honda/Nissan/etc will usually get more than a domestic engine for a given amount of nitrous because of the better efficiency, etc.
Wise up, you're talking out of your ass.
This has NOTHING to do with what the actual power output is. How "good" the company has no relevance to this at all, it only has to do with how big the jets are.
If one company has slightly bigger jets than another company, so the power output per advertised kit size is more, that doesn't mean one company is better. That just means that one company uses jets that aren't accurately sized compared to another company.
If you get 125 HP instead of 100 HP, the jets are just bigger than they need to be, and the average power rating isn't accurate. If you rate your kit for 'X' power and use 0.045 jets instead of another company's 'X' power kit with 0.040 jets, the kits are rated the same but one will get more power (both more than the rated power most likely). Which company is better? Does that jet sizing have anything to do with the quality of the rest of the kit, like the fittings, solenoids, lines, valves, etc.?
Stupid analogy time:
If I gave you a baker's dozen (13) donuts instead of 12 donuts, and another donut shop gave you 12, does that mean that my donuts are better quality? No, it just means that I gave you more.
If this is all that matters to you when you're telling yourself which company is better, then you're fooling yourself.
This has NOTHING to do with what the actual power output is. How "good" the company has no relevance to this at all, it only has to do with how big the jets are.
If one company has slightly bigger jets than another company, so the power output per advertised kit size is more, that doesn't mean one company is better. That just means that one company uses jets that aren't accurately sized compared to another company.
If you get 125 HP instead of 100 HP, the jets are just bigger than they need to be, and the average power rating isn't accurate. If you rate your kit for 'X' power and use 0.045 jets instead of another company's 'X' power kit with 0.040 jets, the kits are rated the same but one will get more power (both more than the rated power most likely). Which company is better? Does that jet sizing have anything to do with the quality of the rest of the kit, like the fittings, solenoids, lines, valves, etc.?
Stupid analogy time:
If I gave you a baker's dozen (13) donuts instead of 12 donuts, and another donut shop gave you 12, does that mean that my donuts are better quality? No, it just means that I gave you more.
If this is all that matters to you when you're telling yourself which company is better, then you're fooling yourself.
Last edited by Fabrik8; 09-01-2007 at 04:12 PM.
#6
Re: Nitrous question
It's an estimation of the power you'll gain based on the nitrous jet size, etc., but that's a really rough estimation. THere are a lot of factors that play into how much power you'll actually gain, like engine efficiency, etc. A Honda/Nissan/etc will usually get more than a domestic engine for a given amount of nitrous because of the better efficiency, etc.
Wise up, you're talking out of your ass.
This has NOTHING to do with what the actual power output is. How "good" the company has no relevance to this at all, it only has to do with how big the jets are.
If one company has slightly bigger jets than another company, so the power output per advertised kit size is more, that doesn't mean one company is better. That just means that one company uses jets that aren't accurately sized compared to another company.
If you get 125 HP instead of 100 HP, the jets are just bigger than they need to be, and the average power rating isn't accurate. If you rate your kit for 'X' power and use 0.045 jets instead of another company's 'X' power kit with 0.040 jets, the kits are rated the same but one will get more power (both more than the rated power most likely). Which company is better? Does that jet sizing have anything to do with the quality of the rest of the kit, like the fittings, solenoids, lines, valves, etc.?
Stupid analogy time:
If I gave you a baker's dozen (13) donuts instead of 12 donuts, and another donut shop gave you 12, does that mean that my donuts are better quality? No, it just means that I gave you more.
If this is all that matters to you when you're telling yourself which company is better, then you're fooling yourself.
This has NOTHING to do with what the actual power output is. How "good" the company has no relevance to this at all, it only has to do with how big the jets are.
If one company has slightly bigger jets than another company, so the power output per advertised kit size is more, that doesn't mean one company is better. That just means that one company uses jets that aren't accurately sized compared to another company.
If you get 125 HP instead of 100 HP, the jets are just bigger than they need to be, and the average power rating isn't accurate. If you rate your kit for 'X' power and use 0.045 jets instead of another company's 'X' power kit with 0.040 jets, the kits are rated the same but one will get more power (both more than the rated power most likely). Which company is better? Does that jet sizing have anything to do with the quality of the rest of the kit, like the fittings, solenoids, lines, valves, etc.?
Stupid analogy time:
If I gave you a baker's dozen (13) donuts instead of 12 donuts, and another donut shop gave you 12, does that mean that my donuts are better quality? No, it just means that I gave you more.
If this is all that matters to you when you're telling yourself which company is better, then you're fooling yourself.
#7
Re: Nitrous question
when i said good i didnt really mean a well-built durable nitrous kit i meant one that will give you the most hp for that rating or application
for instance, like Big Bake said, TNT is notorious for making a 100 shot that will give you 115ish whp depending on application which could translate to a 150shot from a different company
Last edited by catfSSh; 09-01-2007 at 04:47 PM.
#8
Re: Nitrous question
TNT rated their shots based on a stock car at the rear wheels. So depending on the modifications that you have in place for example a set of headers, you may have an increase in actual output of 10-15% more.
#9
Racetracks
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: How long is a piece of string?
Posts: 15,668
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Nitrous question
None of this changes that fact that the quality of the kit doesn't have to do with how accurate the power rating is, given that you won't get the same power output on different engines from different engines manufacturers, and crank vs. wheel HP. Wheel HP is different also, you'll get different drivetrain efficiency losses on RWD, FWD, AWD, etc. So a 100 shot isn't going to give 100HP on all engines, all drivetrains, all altitudes, on all dynos, etc. Saying that a 100 shot gave you 115 HP tells absolutely nothing, and someone with with a different car will get different results. Again, can you really base the quality of the kit on the jet size that they give you, instead of the lines, fittings, etc?
If you're really worried about getting the most power out of a given kit, get the kit with the highest quality components, and then buy the jets that give you the power output that you want, after you dyno it the first time and have a baseline.
I could make the shittiest quality kit on the market, put oversized jets in it, and you'd make 175 HP instead of the nominal 100 HP I advertised. Does that make my crappy nitrous kit a quality product? No, it still makes it a piece of shit but with jets that are bigger than the competition's 100 HP rated kit.
If you're really worried about getting the most power out of a given kit, get the kit with the highest quality components, and then buy the jets that give you the power output that you want, after you dyno it the first time and have a baseline.
I could make the shittiest quality kit on the market, put oversized jets in it, and you'd make 175 HP instead of the nominal 100 HP I advertised. Does that make my crappy nitrous kit a quality product? No, it still makes it a piece of shit but with jets that are bigger than the competition's 100 HP rated kit.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Nic
Central VA
10
07-16-2003 03:35 PM