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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Yell88CRXsi
Any B series vtec head will fit on any B series block.

Power output will depend on what is done to the motor.
Yeah it will fit... I just read that the stock b20 rods could handle pretty high rpms but not the pistons

What does a good rods/pistons setup usually cost?
What all is involved in the vtec swap?
Old Jun 8, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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Default Re: b20 vtec

so are you saying to use the stock head or the built head
Old Jun 8, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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Default Re: b20 vtec

Originally Posted by LLama
b18b 142hp/127tq
b18c1 170hp/128tq

If these figures are correct... I don't see sacrificing that much top end for 5 ft lbs of torque...
I actually put out 134hp 134 tq to the wheels on my basically stock b20b. Also on my dyno chat, my hp and tq never cropped at all. once it peaked and remained completely flat til rev limit.
Old Jun 8, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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depending on the money you want to spend and how much of a build you want to do, one thing I would definately do is vtec water pump and oil pump. Just to help the motor out some if you plan to rev past 7k. Anothing thing to look into is actually destroking the b20 to a 1.8, using a b16 crank and eagle makes a rod for this. Sleaving the motor and it is supposed to be good up to 10k.
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b20 sleeves = paper
Old Jun 8, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by EclipseFIRM
b20 sleeves = paper
You're an idiot. But go ahead and full explain your comment.
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 04:06 AM
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Default Re: b20 vtec

Originally Posted by LLama
Yeah it will fit... I just read that the stock b20 rods could handle pretty high rpms but not the pistons
Umm, no. It is the stock rods that will not hold up on high revs. Just drop the $350+ on set of forged rods. Reading is good and all, but I would not believe everything you read...especally on the internet!

Now, do you want to know why? It's because of the faster piston speed of the lower rod ratio that causes "X" amount of mass to travel a such a speed that when the piston reaches TDC and quickly starts back down that the inertia of the piston & rod rips the stock "weaker" rod in half slamming the piston into the head.

The only thing I ever seen stock piston do is melt and blow ring glands due to detonation.

Originally Posted by LLama
What does a good rods/pistons setup usually cost? What all is involved in the vtec swap?
By the sound of things, I think the question you should be asking yourself is how much money do you plan to spend? Like everything else in the world...there's a right way to do this, and a wrong way. Seeing that you are asking about a swap, I would address this first.
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Default Re: b20 vtec

Originally Posted by Yell88CRXsi
Umm, no. It is the stock rods that will not hold up on high revs. Just drop the $350+ on set of forged rods. Reading is good and all, but I would not believe everything you read...especally on the internet!

Now, do you want to know why? It's because of the faster piston speed of the lower rod ratio that causes "X" amount of mass to travel a such a speed that when the piston reaches TDC and quickly starts back down that the inertia of the piston & rod rips the stock "weaker" rod in half slamming the piston into the head.

The only thing I ever seen stock piston do is melt and blow ring glands due to detonation.



By the sound of things, I think the question you should be asking yourself is how much money do you plan to spend? Like everything else in the world...there's a right way to do this, and a wrong way. Seeing that you are asking about a swap, I would address this first.
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 06:41 AM
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I don't plan on doing this myself... I'm just inquiring... what are the options for rods/pistons?

SLOWls.. the b20 vtec i assume... what's "near stock"?? post the dyno chart too... I'm not calling bs, would just like to see the curve.
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 08:24 AM
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Default Re: b20 vtec

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Originally Posted by EclipseFIRM
b20 sleeves = paper
You're an idiot. But go ahead and full explain your comment.
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