b20 vtec
Originally Posted by Yell88CRXsi
Any B series vtec head will fit on any B series block.
Power output will depend on what is done to the motor.
Power output will depend on what is done to the motor.
What does a good rods/pistons setup usually cost?
What all is involved in the vtec swap?
Originally Posted by LLama
b18b 142hp/127tq
b18c1 170hp/128tq
If these figures are correct... I don't see sacrificing that much top end for 5 ft lbs of torque...
b18c1 170hp/128tq
If these figures are correct... I don't see sacrificing that much top end for 5 ft lbs of torque...
depending on the money you want to spend and how much of a build you want to do, one thing I would definately do is vtec water pump and oil pump. Just to help the motor out some if you plan to rev past 7k. Anothing thing to look into is actually destroking the b20 to a 1.8, using a b16 crank and eagle makes a rod for this. Sleaving the motor and it is supposed to be good up to 10k.
Originally Posted by LLama
Yeah it will fit... I just read that the stock b20 rods could handle pretty high rpms but not the pistons
Now, do you want to know why? It's because of the faster piston speed of the lower rod ratio that causes "X" amount of mass to travel a such a speed that when the piston reaches TDC and quickly starts back down that the inertia of the piston & rod rips the stock "weaker" rod in half slamming the piston into the head.
The only thing I ever seen stock piston do is melt and blow ring glands due to detonation.
Originally Posted by LLama
What does a good rods/pistons setup usually cost? What all is involved in the vtec swap?
Originally Posted by Yell88CRXsi
Umm, no. It is the stock rods that will not hold up on high revs. Just drop the $350+ on set of forged rods. Reading is good and all, but I would not believe everything you read...especally on the internet!
Now, do you want to know why? It's because of the faster piston speed of the lower rod ratio that causes "X" amount of mass to travel a such a speed that when the piston reaches TDC and quickly starts back down that the inertia of the piston & rod rips the stock "weaker" rod in half slamming the piston into the head.
The only thing I ever seen stock piston do is melt and blow ring glands due to detonation.
By the sound of things, I think the question you should be asking yourself is how much money do you plan to spend? Like everything else in the world...there's a right way to do this, and a wrong way. Seeing that you are asking about a swap, I would address this first.
Now, do you want to know why? It's because of the faster piston speed of the lower rod ratio that causes "X" amount of mass to travel a such a speed that when the piston reaches TDC and quickly starts back down that the inertia of the piston & rod rips the stock "weaker" rod in half slamming the piston into the head.
The only thing I ever seen stock piston do is melt and blow ring glands due to detonation.
By the sound of things, I think the question you should be asking yourself is how much money do you plan to spend? Like everything else in the world...there's a right way to do this, and a wrong way. Seeing that you are asking about a swap, I would address this first.
Money is the biggest issue in this sport.
I don't plan on doing this myself... I'm just inquiring... what are the options for rods/pistons?
SLOWls.. the b20 vtec i assume... what's "near stock"?? post the dyno chart too... I'm not calling bs, would just like to see the curve.
SLOWls.. the b20 vtec i assume... what's "near stock"?? post the dyno chart too... I'm not calling bs, would just like to see the curve.
Originally Posted by SlowLS
Originally Posted by EclipseFIRM
b20 sleeves = paper 

Just for reference, see sig.







