wait a tick i said nothing that the allure of a skyline was limited to it's engine. I was simply talking in the context of doing a U.S. Accord to Euro Accord type-R conversion.

of course a simple powertrain implant into a U.S. Spec car wouldn't be nearly as satisfying as the real thing. but seeing as how no one on this board has one, that is a far closer glimse of the beast than many of us will ever get.

 

yeah, but you gotta go all out, hehe. accord type r. h22, 220hp, dual exhaust, auto-bahn suspension, authentic type R sticker = tiiiiight.

 

Hey wait a sec...

i have all that except i have a 3.2l Yamaha V-6 and absolutley no Type-R emblems.

well okay so my suspension is ass right now. $800 could change that all around...

 

...oh yeah, it also has red/black interior scheme w/ recaro racing seats and headlight sprayers. but wait a minute, using the estimate of 15% powertrain loss, that gives you 205 at the fly? (what are the factory numbers?). so you have two more cylinders, and 15 less hp

what does SHO stand for anyways, i've always wondered that.

 

so basically justin, you have NONE of that...hahahaha

SHO stands for super high output...ford had to go to japan to get a "super high output" motor though

 

LOL, well, at least i didn't say it.

 

try an estimated 18% powertrain loss buddy. 15% is very conservative. Remember we're talking FWD. and at that sceme i should be making about 180 HP. assuming that my car has 150k miles on it and it has never been retuned that's about right. and that 220 is at the fly. also it should be noted making this type of comparison the h22 was designed and built when? The 3.0l/3.2l SHO motor made by yamaha was designed and built in 1985 By Yamaha. Only in 1989 was it put into a production car. The gen I SHO Taurus. In stock form (from yamaha) the engine made 300hp at the crank. Ford made the fuel pump weaker, the cam profile cooler, downsized the TB and MAF, made a extremely quiet and very restrictive air induction system, and went to a smaller header and less costly and easier to fit 2-1-2 exhaust system.
The reason ford did this is because with the engine in the stock setup it would be much more costly (would've cost at least 2,000 more per car) and would've also made the SHO the most powerful car in fords line up untill '95. The '93 SVT Cobra only made 235hp by comparison.

 

15% is very conservative, but for hondas, it's pretty damn accurate from what i've seen before w/ near stock cars and dynos. i'm assuming ford probably doesn't have that great of a tranny so 18% for that .

what's w/ all the stuff about what the motor was before ford got to it? that's doesn't really apply to anything. what it is now is pretty sorry for a v6. now, you can probably do a lot to it from what it sounds like, but the thing is, that's not what it is currently. you better get to work, bring the v6 to the 13s at least. contact yamaha for some parts

 

yeah but the point i was trying to make is that for an engine designed nearly 20 years ago it's performance was incredible. i didn't know many N/A V-8's that made 300HP in '85. And this is a six. I would contact yamaha if they actually made any parts for it. Problem with the SHO is the aftermarket is starting to dry up a bit. Parts are starting to get really expensive. per liter the 3.0l V-6 that makes 300hp is just as impressive as a 2.2l I-4 that makes 220. still 100 hp per liter. and the h22 has VTEC my engine doesn't. The 3.2l (i think) in the TL Type-S makes 260, has VTEC and a dual stage intake manifold. And it's engine was a decade ahead of the SHO's.

 

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