OH SHIT WE GOTTA GIRL WHAT BITCHES

 

way to invalidate my point.

 

I would agree with this if it wasn't for the fact that the proposed Holden platform wasn't a better car than the original grand national in every category.

 

Victor.

IMO all that matters is that the car lives up to it's performance car linage. This car will definetely out do it's predecessor in every category. Hell, the original definetly wasn't known for it's handling prowess.

Has anyone checked the stock market?

 

This has no fan base barrier. I don't think Spic is on the offensive or defensive. He's attempting to prove a point that he believes to be true. Tim and I are arguing a different point that we see to be true (If it's a great performance car, bring it on...no matter the name).

Question: You do know what the GN/GNX were based of right?
Answer: A ma and pa car. It was never all that unique. Everyone remembers the T type...

Just in case you forgot Tim:

 

what was every muscle car based off of?

ugh this doesn't work so well since i own page 16...continuation on greygti's argument that the grand national was based off the regal, which in my opinion actually qualifies the grand national as a muscle car.

 

umm.. that's the point. It had one goal in life, and that was to go as fast as fucking possible in a straight line. See also: last muscle car ever produced.

 

my point was that it wasn't extremely unique. I wasn't into cars in the mid 80's so I can't say if there was an uproar when the t type was introduced using near the same drivetrain.

and now you have the chance to be faster than the original gn and handle leaps and bounds above it.

I understand Spics argument about "heritage" and "respect", but I just can't for the life of me see how an enthusiast can't even consider it a disgrace. (I personaly don't think the Holden/GTO deal is anything to piss and moan about)

 

If you put the same engine in an '87 GN, I'd guarantee low 11's on a sticky tire. You won't see that in that car. I promise. Why? The answer starts with an S.

I once saw a near stock GN (it had a boost contoller and a slightly wider tire) light the front tires off of the gound during a launch on the street. That car does not live up to that. I don't care if it's faster, if it can't do a little wheelstand in near-stock form, fuck that piece of shit.

 

But the Mustang was never cancelled, thenh brought back 25+ years later. The Mustang is kicking and still kicking quite hard. There were shady areas, '74-'86 ish, minus the SVO, but the Mustang has been a dominating car on the market and still is since its invention in '64 1/2.