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Interesting Read: Virginian Pilot-Reviews 2006 Eclipse

Old Aug 15, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by GR1FFON
Momentum refers to a rate of speed, or better rate of acceleration correct? So, the car has a rate of acceleration from the line to the finish,
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Mid-late 15's make a lot more sense.

I dont think you are getting it.

(1) 1/4 mile pass is going to be substantially faster than (1) 1/8 mile pass when multiplied times 2, since you no long have the 00-??MPH that you have to overcome.
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by GR1FFON

SO, the variable in the equation is distance which is halved, everything being relative, doubling the 1/8 mi time with a margin of error can be used to project, NOT ACCURATELY MEASURE a 1/4 time.

That being said, I made that post to try and find out where that guy was getting his math. He said it does 8.3 in 1/8mi and the proceeded to say the car would do mid-late 14's.

Mid-late 15's make a lot more sense.
it can be used to inaccurately project 1/4 mile times.

at the start of a standing 1/8th mile, your velocity is 0. you accelerate from the beginning to the end of 1/8th mile, where your velocity is whatever after a certain period of time.

if you imagine the 1/4 mile as two 1/8ths, at the end of the first 1/8th you would STILL be traveling at whatever mph AND accelerating, obviously completing the same distance as the first 1/8th in a much shorter time.

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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rally Red 98
it can be used to inaccurately project 1/4 mile times.

at the start of a standing 1/8th mile, your velocity is 0. you accelerate from the beginning to the end of 1/8th mile, where your velocity is whatever after a certain period of time.

if you imagine the 1/4 mile as two 1/8ths, at the end of the first 1/8th you would STILL be traveling at whatever mph AND accelerating, obviously completing the same distance as the first 1/8th in a much shorter time.
I get it completely.Of course you would travel the second 1/8 mi quicker, but you also have to take into account that once you hit fifth or sixth gear (depending on which you have) that velocity will be at a steady rate (less accleration). so we aren't talking about shaving 3-4 secs on the second 1/8 mi, more like 1-2. If you notice, my estimate took off a full second. 8.3 x 2= 16.6...I estimated around mid-late 15's, removing a full second because you won't be starting from a full stop.

The math may not be perfect, and I didn't say it was totally accurate. I still say stock, this new eclipse should run 15's
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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probably a typo and should read 18.3 1/4 mile, up there with just about every other non-turbo eclipse out there..

(yes, i'm being a jackass. no. i'm not entirely serious, only stands for the n/a 4 cylinder which is probably about the slowest thing i've ever driven)
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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i've run 8.90 in the 1/8th and 14.1 in the quarter, and my car is not known for top end. that's a difference of 4 seconds. a turbo car (especially FWD) would probably do much better in the 1/8th and a back-halfed car might do worse... but i don't doubt that the new eclipse could go mid-low 14s depending on options.

not trying to argue, just trying to show that we aren't making this up.

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(yes, i'm being a jackass. no. i'm not entirely serious, only stands for the n/a 4 cylinder which is probably about the slowest thing i've ever driven)
Then I guess you have never driven a Honda Civic.
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GR1FFON
there aren't many cars that carry the same exact design from concept to production...Changes are made between to tailor the vehicle to the target market...
The TT did.
Only real changes were engine related. And minor body modifications (like a spoiler, adding an extra small triangular window behind the side windows, eliminating the holes in the fenders, and making the lower air dam grills larger). If you covered over that rear window, swap your wheels with larger ones, lower it a little, and put spacers on, it'll look almost exactly like the concept.

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Originally Posted by Rally Red 98
i've run 8.90 in the 1/8th and 14.1 in the quarter, and my car is not known for top end. that's a difference of 4 seconds. a turbo car (especially FWD) would probably do much better in the 1/8th and a back-halfed car might do worse... but i don't doubt that the new eclipse could go mid-low 14s depending on options.

not trying to argue, just trying to show that we aren't making this up.
I know you aren't making it up. But with 3-4 secs difference between the first and second 1/8mi, we are definetly talking about some top end power. What kind of car do you have, and what mods have you added? Not trying to argue, just curious.
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Originally Posted by Greyhaven7
The TT did.
Only real changes were engine related. And minor body modifications (like a spoiler, adding an extra small triangular window behind the side windows, eliminating the holes in the fenders, and making the lower air dam grills larger). If you covered over that rear window, swap your wheels with larger ones, lower it a little, and put spacers on, it'll look almost exactly like the concept.
That's true, but then again, Europeans are way more open to design experimentation than Americans, and the Eclipse (as I last checked) exclusively American.
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Originally Posted by GR1FFON
That's true, but then again, Europeans are way more open to design experimentation than Americans, and the Eclipse (as I last checked) exclusively American.
I'll give you that one. I really wish American cars took on the same design freedom... they'd be much better cars. That and they need to figure out that you can't use the same interior materials and interior designs in $80,000 cars as you do in your base model Cavaliers and Escorts.


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