Pirelli blows Azenis' ass. Azenis rocks.

 

your crazy man.....pirelli is the original equipment on the worlds finest..stock on ferraris and lambos..

 

it also depdnds on what azenis's your talking theres only like what 4 different kinds of them!?!?

 

THE Azenis. RT-215. Azenis sport. Whatever you want to call it, it's still the better tire.

Pirelli is OE on those cars because they designed tires for such cars with huge wheels. That's like saying Nike is the best shoe company because Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods use their products.

 

azenis stick much better and are cheaper

pirellis cost more and last a little longer i would assume.

 

azenis and MX's are not very good in the rain so manufacters have a hard time putting them on cars stock.

 

Also, Azenis and MX's also aren't designed with NVH (noise, vibration, harshness) considerations in mind... which are the #1 concerns of most vehicle manufacturers and new car buyers.

Having said that... it doesn't get any cheaper/stickier than MX's or Azenis. (If there's a stickier Pirelli, it costs more money... otherwise all us broke @$$ wanna-be-roadracers would use it.)

Jon

 

I use Azenis (195-60-14 on stock wheels) *AND* MX's (205-50-15 on K1's) on my E30 and both sets are the best tyres I've ever had on my E30

Jon

 

The fastest street tire (140 utqg and higher) for use in competition where beating the clock is the priority, there are no better/faster tires than the Azeni/MX. A very close third would be the BFG KD. All other tires would will fill the grid after the cars equipped with the above tires. If there was a quicker street tire (even money no object) it would have been found.

Go through the list:
Pirelli Nero
Toyo T1S
Advan Neova (Yok)
Goodyear F1
Michelin Pilot Sports
Nitto (hehehe)
etc...

With equal drivers/cars all would see tailights...

Ed

 

The high preformance cars from Italy, Germany, England..... all have a level of safty built-in. Meaning the tires, suspension, traction control all work together to give a nice ballance.

Now lets just look at a Street tire VS a Race tire. A good street tire should give good straight line and cornering traction for the conditions, ie surface, weather, temp.... And the tire is designed to give a little as well, so that when these contitions are not perfect the car wont loose all grip and go sliding out of control. And I dont just mean when its icy or raining, but also when the tire is pushed to the edge or past its limits. A Race tire give optimum traction in its given optimum contitions, thats why there are differant compounds, and even specific rain, snow, and mud tires. And because these tires are so condition specific, when they are pushed past there limits they simply give way, meaning you end up looking in the wrong direction...

Now what this means is that when in a HPDE, AutoX, or SoloI condition if in a "Street tire" class or on a ST budget you want a tire that gives as many charateristics to the Race tire as you can get. You may inturn give up ride comfort, and the tire maybe louder, but is a competition setting those are things I can live with. Thus Pirellie is not on the same level as the Kumho or Falken right now they are geared for passanger cars.

As far as the "Azenis" it is the origional RT-215 that people are talking about. Falken changed the advertising last year are started calling just about there whole line of tires Azenis. Its somewhat like the brand ID of Advan, for Yokohama.


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