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No one can tell me the truth bout short shifters..

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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DOHC crx VTEC
..............?
you gotta know how much power and what kind of times you're looking to run before you start digging into transmissions
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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you gotta know how much power and what kind of times you're looking to run before you start digging into transmissions
275-300WHP at the minimum....
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Originally Posted by DOHC crx VTEC
275-300WHP at the minimum....

to the wheels or at the crank?

i gotta go to class i'll talk more bout it later
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Originally Posted by lLOlRlElN
to the wheels or at the crank?
To the wheel's.
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Default Re: No one can tell me the truth bout short shifters..

Originally Posted by lLOlRlElN
i agree that it can but only if you have the power to do so. and with that same power you can still accelerate faster with the shorter gears because its less resistance and your engine will rev faster.

please elaborate on the loss at the shift. to my understanding it could be the driver shifting too slow or missing a gear. or the driver is just flat foot shifting and spinnin tires through the gears.
When you have to shift the B16/GSR/whatever tranny you stop accellerating while the LS tranny is still pulling. That's when the advantage from the shorter gears is lost.

The ONLY advantage of the shorter gears (if all else is equal) is accelleration in any given gear. Overall, shorter gears are useless.
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When you have to shift the B16/GSR/whatever tranny you stop accellerating while the LS tranny is still pulling. That's when the advantage from the shorter gears is lost.

The ONLY advantage of the shorter gears (if all else is equal) is accelleration in any given gear. Overall, shorter gears are useless.
I see your point. but i also think its a very grey area because theres alot of variation that can come into play. its really a matter of "does your engine have the ass to pull?" and that leads back to top end performance. i understand why you say boost=ls though.
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I see your point. but i also think its a very grey area because theres alot of variation that can come into play. its really a matter of "does your engine have the ass to pull?" and that leads back to top end performance. i understand why you say boost=ls though.
Well dang it, come on guy's!!! What transmission do you think will be best for me? I'm going to be boosting my B16 by summer, looking to see 300WHP ++ at least....car will be fully built, meaning suspesnion and everything.
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Default Re: No one can tell me the truth bout short shifters..

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When you have to shift the B16/GSR/whatever tranny you stop accellerating while the LS tranny is still pulling. That's when the advantage from the shorter gears is lost.

The ONLY advantage of the shorter gears (if all else is equal) is accelleration in any given gear. Overall, shorter gears are useless.

Are you retarded? I fully understand where you are coming from, but, if short gears are worthless - why do ALL B series VTEC trannies come with such short gearing?

Because, when you have a motor (such as a VTEC motor), with a broad powerband...you can afford the shorter gearing. Longer gears are generally best matched to a motor with a peaky powerband to keep you there longer. If you are making power everywhere, you don't need the longer gears and can better make use of the shorter gears to pick up speed much faster.
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Well dang it, come on guy's!!! What transmission do you think will be best for me? I'm going to be boosting my B16 by summer, looking to see 300WHP ++ at least....car will be fully built, meaning suspesnion and everything.

you still havent told me what kind of times you are running
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Default Re: No one can tell me the truth bout short shifters..

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you still havent told me what kind of times you are running

4 seconds

I don't know how my time's will be loren! Check this video out.... Its kinda the same thing im going for...

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...2CDDCA33E1.htm



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