lets try again, Va state laws. this is serious
though you guys might find this interesting:
i went to fairfax county court on friday, and an older guy (maybe 60-65) was there with a summons for 36% window tint on the back windows. it was an oldsmobile or something, and the guy showed proof that the window tint was like that stock, and that it was approved by the federal government. he had a letter from the dealership where he had bought the vehicle, and a letter from the manufacturer that stated that they do not produce illegal vehicles.
after all this, the dick head judge said "come back on the officers next court date with proof that you removed the tint." the older gentleman just shook his head and left the courtroom looking very disgusted.
i went to fairfax county court on friday, and an older guy (maybe 60-65) was there with a summons for 36% window tint on the back windows. it was an oldsmobile or something, and the guy showed proof that the window tint was like that stock, and that it was approved by the federal government. he had a letter from the dealership where he had bought the vehicle, and a letter from the manufacturer that stated that they do not produce illegal vehicles.
after all this, the dick head judge said "come back on the officers next court date with proof that you removed the tint." the older gentleman just shook his head and left the courtroom looking very disgusted.
power trippin', for my time and effort i would be looking for some sort of oral service as some sort of return from the judge himself.. haha, what a joke
Originally Posted by gtistile
this is the subjectivity of the law...FUCK THAT, because one officer can say one thing, and the next asshole might have his panties in a bunch and have every right to write the ticket after all, asking one cop and getting his name is just the same as driving down the road past one cop that doesnt pull you over, while the next one does...it makes no difference. this is the point we are getting at. camaro's and mustangs ride around ALL the time with aftermarked exhausts, and since they dont attract huge attention even though they are loud, they dont get hassled. 1. they arent as flashy, and 2. i think cops are more biased towards domestics for several reasons. first being that there was never any stupid ass ricer movies about domestics in the theatres, and 2, they dont understand that not all of us are idiots.
this brings up another statistic i would like to see. of the exhaust tickets written, what percentage are imports and what percentage are domestics...that would be another staggering statistic.
this brings up another statistic i would like to see. of the exhaust tickets written, what percentage are imports and what percentage are domestics...that would be another staggering statistic.
you guys bitch about it so here we go, progress is being made, NOW DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!
URGENT LEGISLATIVE ALERT
Legislation to Allow Reasonable Exhaust System Modifications
Introduced in Virginia
Legislation (H.B. 2895) that would allow Virginia’s vehicle hobbyists to install and use aftermarket modified exhaust systems that meet a 95-decibel limit under a fair and predictable test standard has been introduced in the Virginia State Legislature by Delegate William Fralin (Del_Fralin@house.state.va.us)
We Urge You to Contact Your Virginia State Legislators Immediately to Support H.B. 2895
· H.B. 2895 would remove subjective provisions in the law and force compliance with an objectively measured standard. Under the standard, exhaust noise could not exceed a sound reading of 95-decibels under a fair and predictable test (Society of Automotive Engineers J1169 - May 1998).
· H.B. 2895 would benefit consumers, the aftermarket industry and police officers who are charged with enforcing the law.
· H.B. 2895 would remedy the enforcement policy currently used by police officers in which nearly all exhaust systems not of a type installed as standard factory equipment are considered illegal - even where noise levels are not excessive or unusual. This policy leaves enthusiasts, exhaust system manufacturers and dealers without recourse.
· H.B. 2895 recognizes that aftermarket exhaust systems are designed to make vehicles run more efficiently without increasing emissions.
· H.B. 2895 recognizes that aftermarket exhaust systems offer increased durability and performance, which can make a vehicle safer by improving its ability to merge, pass, travel uphill, etc.
· H.B. 2895 challenges the erroneous assumption that enthusiasts who equip their vehicles with modified exhaust systems are involved in illegal street racing.
Contact Delegate Fralin (Del_Fralin@house.state.va.us)to thank him. Contact your own state legislators in Richmond immediately by phone, fax or e-mail to request their support for this legislation. If you need assistance in determining who your legislators are and their contact information, please contact the Virginia Legislature’s General Information Line at (804) 698-1500. This information can also be obtained by calling the SEMA Washington, D.C. office at 202/783-6007, ext. 38 or via the Internet at http://www.semasan.com/ContactYourLegislator.aspx Please e-mail a copy of your letter to stevem@sema.org or fax to 202/783-6024 or mail to:
SEMA Washington Office
1317 F Street, NW, Suite 500
Washington, DC 20004
Attention: Steve McDonald
URGENT LEGISLATIVE ALERT
Legislation to Allow Reasonable Exhaust System Modifications
Introduced in Virginia
Legislation (H.B. 2895) that would allow Virginia’s vehicle hobbyists to install and use aftermarket modified exhaust systems that meet a 95-decibel limit under a fair and predictable test standard has been introduced in the Virginia State Legislature by Delegate William Fralin (Del_Fralin@house.state.va.us)
We Urge You to Contact Your Virginia State Legislators Immediately to Support H.B. 2895
· H.B. 2895 would remove subjective provisions in the law and force compliance with an objectively measured standard. Under the standard, exhaust noise could not exceed a sound reading of 95-decibels under a fair and predictable test (Society of Automotive Engineers J1169 - May 1998).
· H.B. 2895 would benefit consumers, the aftermarket industry and police officers who are charged with enforcing the law.
· H.B. 2895 would remedy the enforcement policy currently used by police officers in which nearly all exhaust systems not of a type installed as standard factory equipment are considered illegal - even where noise levels are not excessive or unusual. This policy leaves enthusiasts, exhaust system manufacturers and dealers without recourse.
· H.B. 2895 recognizes that aftermarket exhaust systems are designed to make vehicles run more efficiently without increasing emissions.
· H.B. 2895 recognizes that aftermarket exhaust systems offer increased durability and performance, which can make a vehicle safer by improving its ability to merge, pass, travel uphill, etc.
· H.B. 2895 challenges the erroneous assumption that enthusiasts who equip their vehicles with modified exhaust systems are involved in illegal street racing.
Contact Delegate Fralin (Del_Fralin@house.state.va.us)to thank him. Contact your own state legislators in Richmond immediately by phone, fax or e-mail to request their support for this legislation. If you need assistance in determining who your legislators are and their contact information, please contact the Virginia Legislature’s General Information Line at (804) 698-1500. This information can also be obtained by calling the SEMA Washington, D.C. office at 202/783-6007, ext. 38 or via the Internet at http://www.semasan.com/ContactYourLegislator.aspx Please e-mail a copy of your letter to stevem@sema.org or fax to 202/783-6024 or mail to:
SEMA Washington Office
1317 F Street, NW, Suite 500
Washington, DC 20004
Attention: Steve McDonald
Originally Posted by su_maverick
you guys bitch about it so here we go, progress is being made, NOW DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!
URGENT LEGISLATIVE ALERT
Legislation to Allow Reasonable Exhaust System Modifications
Introduced in Virginia
Legislation (H.B. 2895) that would allow Virginia’s vehicle hobbyists to install and use aftermarket modified exhaust systems that meet a 95-decibel limit under a fair and predictable test standard has been introduced in the Virginia State Legislature by Delegate William Fralin (Del_Fralin@house.state.va.us)
We Urge You to Contact Your Virginia State Legislators Immediately to Support H.B. 2895
· H.B. 2895 would remove subjective provisions in the law and force compliance with an objectively measured standard. Under the standard, exhaust noise could not exceed a sound reading of 95-decibels under a fair and predictable test (Society of Automotive Engineers J1169 - May 1998).
· H.B. 2895 would benefit consumers, the aftermarket industry and police officers who are charged with enforcing the law.
· H.B. 2895 would remedy the enforcement policy currently used by police officers in which nearly all exhaust systems not of a type installed as standard factory equipment are considered illegal - even where noise levels are not excessive or unusual. This policy leaves enthusiasts, exhaust system manufacturers and dealers without recourse.
· H.B. 2895 recognizes that aftermarket exhaust systems are designed to make vehicles run more efficiently without increasing emissions.
· H.B. 2895 recognizes that aftermarket exhaust systems offer increased durability and performance, which can make a vehicle safer by improving its ability to merge, pass, travel uphill, etc.
· H.B. 2895 challenges the erroneous assumption that enthusiasts who equip their vehicles with modified exhaust systems are involved in illegal street racing.
Contact Delegate Fralin (Del_Fralin@house.state.va.us)to thank him. Contact your own state legislators in Richmond immediately by phone, fax or e-mail to request their support for this legislation. If you need assistance in determining who your legislators are and their contact information, please contact the Virginia Legislature’s General Information Line at (804) 698-1500. This information can also be obtained by calling the SEMA Washington, D.C. office at 202/783-6007, ext. 38 or via the Internet at http://www.semasan.com/ContactYourLegislator.aspx Please e-mail a copy of your letter to stevem@sema.org or fax to 202/783-6024 or mail to:
SEMA Washington Office
1317 F Street, NW, Suite 500
Washington, DC 20004
Attention: Steve McDonald
URGENT LEGISLATIVE ALERT
Legislation to Allow Reasonable Exhaust System Modifications
Introduced in Virginia
Legislation (H.B. 2895) that would allow Virginia’s vehicle hobbyists to install and use aftermarket modified exhaust systems that meet a 95-decibel limit under a fair and predictable test standard has been introduced in the Virginia State Legislature by Delegate William Fralin (Del_Fralin@house.state.va.us)
We Urge You to Contact Your Virginia State Legislators Immediately to Support H.B. 2895
· H.B. 2895 would remove subjective provisions in the law and force compliance with an objectively measured standard. Under the standard, exhaust noise could not exceed a sound reading of 95-decibels under a fair and predictable test (Society of Automotive Engineers J1169 - May 1998).
· H.B. 2895 would benefit consumers, the aftermarket industry and police officers who are charged with enforcing the law.
· H.B. 2895 would remedy the enforcement policy currently used by police officers in which nearly all exhaust systems not of a type installed as standard factory equipment are considered illegal - even where noise levels are not excessive or unusual. This policy leaves enthusiasts, exhaust system manufacturers and dealers without recourse.
· H.B. 2895 recognizes that aftermarket exhaust systems are designed to make vehicles run more efficiently without increasing emissions.
· H.B. 2895 recognizes that aftermarket exhaust systems offer increased durability and performance, which can make a vehicle safer by improving its ability to merge, pass, travel uphill, etc.
· H.B. 2895 challenges the erroneous assumption that enthusiasts who equip their vehicles with modified exhaust systems are involved in illegal street racing.
Contact Delegate Fralin (Del_Fralin@house.state.va.us)to thank him. Contact your own state legislators in Richmond immediately by phone, fax or e-mail to request their support for this legislation. If you need assistance in determining who your legislators are and their contact information, please contact the Virginia Legislature’s General Information Line at (804) 698-1500. This information can also be obtained by calling the SEMA Washington, D.C. office at 202/783-6007, ext. 38 or via the Internet at http://www.semasan.com/ContactYourLegislator.aspx Please e-mail a copy of your letter to stevem@sema.org or fax to 202/783-6024 or mail to:
SEMA Washington Office
1317 F Street, NW, Suite 500
Washington, DC 20004
Attention: Steve McDonald
The bill is currently in the House Transportation Committee. Here is a listing of representatives on serving on the committee. Everyone call/write and tell them to support the bill.
For a listing of representavis in the Transportation Committee:
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...2895&Submit=Go
To find out who your local representative is:
http://conview.state.va.us/whosmy.nsf/main?openform
For a listing of representavis in the Transportation Committee:
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...2895&Submit=Go
To find out who your local representative is:
http://conview.state.va.us/whosmy.nsf/main?openform
i got pulled this past friday, on rt. 81, was going 80mph and keepin up with traffic, and i got pulled by an under cover state trooper. I was not the only car goin that fast either, my car has stripes, and that prob. caught his attention. he got me for 80 in a 65 and he gave me this bogus 30 dollar ticket for having an AEM Decal in on the top of my wind sheild(this is above the rear view mirror, i can hardly see it from inside the car). So now i gotta pay 161 dollars. Obstruction of view my A$$!
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