CrJenkins13

Is it cheap and pointless or good and worth it? I can't afford an actual LSD.


Phantom Grip to be exact.

Fabrik8

They're better than nothing. They aren't too bad actually, but they definitely aren't a substitute for a real LSD. After driving a few Phantom Grip equipped cars, I've actually been fairly impressed with the bang for the buck that you get. I'd say use the money toward a real LSD though; if you can't afford an LSD, save up until you can instead of buying a Phantom Grip.

RwwT

Are you saying "real LSD" because of the quality of the Phantom Grip LSD is not up to par with something such as a Quaife LSD? In the mechanical sense they are both real LSDs.

Will Sol

hmm just take your diff off throw some bolts in the and close it back up and go for it. You should be fine

_crs

phantom grip LSD $300-400

quife LSD $650-900

Fabrik8

Not the quality of how they're made, but the quality of what they do.

RwwT

Gottcha, obviously a geared LSD > Disc LSD. Was just wondering if the quality of the Phantom was good for a disc LSD.

Lt. Dan

I honestly wasn't a fan of the Phantom Grip. I drove three minis, almost back to back at an autocross. One stock, one with a phantom grip, and one with a Quaife... Where the stock and quaife equipped cars were fairly easy to drive through a corner (albeit, the stock one had considerable wheel spin), the Phantom equipped car was harder to keep on line. You could actually feel the difference in the car when the Diff LOCKED... It would either start plowing, or it would suddenly pull further into the corner. Definitely not as predictable as a Quaife.

Dan

Fabrik8

That's where the adjustability comes into play, the Quaife could be adjusted if it had those characteristics, the PG can't.