GTO
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From: Portsmouth
Re: GTO
Plus your car will never be worth what mine will. See I have the real one you know a classic. Its slow too its prob a 13 second car that is stock and 41 years old. WHY WOULD I WANT TO RACE IT.
I am done. I will post some real pics of a GTO up soon.
Srsly.
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From: Kalamazoo
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Man you are taking this to heart. Well I don't think I KNOW MY REAL GTO IS BETTER than your Australian IMPORT rebadged want to be GTO. Oh wait lets put an engine in it and call it a GTO. You don't deserve the badges. The car is nice but not a GTO do you understand?
Plus your car will never be worth what mine will. See I have the real one you know a classic. Its slow too its prob a 13 second car that is stock and 41 years old. WHY WOULD I WANT TO RACE IT.
I am done. I will post some real pics of a GTO up soon.
Plus your car will never be worth what mine will. See I have the real one you know a classic. Its slow too its prob a 13 second car that is stock and 41 years old. WHY WOULD I WANT TO RACE IT.
I am done. I will post some real pics of a GTO up soon.
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From: Portsmouth
Re: GTO
Found this about the Monaro, Vauxhall, Lumina AKA GTO US.
Hey FAT NICK NICE LUMINA
but hey I have a SWEET 65 TEMPEST with GTO badges
The Pontiac GTO was relaunched in the United States in late 2003, based on the Holden Monaro. The Monaro is a 2 door coupe variant of the Australian developed VT/VX Holden Commodore. The Commodore was in turn developed by enlarging the European designed 1994 Opel Omega B, which was marketed in its original form in the U.S. from 1997 to 2001 as the Cadillac Catera. The revival was prompted by former GM chairman Bob Lutz, who drove a Holden Monaro while on a business trip in Australia.
The GTO was produced in the suburb of Elizabeth, South Australia, and is equipped with the Corvette's LS1 ('04) and LS2 ('05-'06) V8 engine with a choice of a 6-speed manual transmission or a 4-speed automatic. The same model is sold in the United Kingdom as a Vauxhall and in the Middle East as a Chevrolet Lumina SS. GM North America made a deal with Holden for them to produce a maximum of 18,000 vehicles per year starting in late 2003 and going through to the end of the 2006 model year. 18,000 was the production limit for the model at the Australian assembly plant.
Despite high expectations by GM to sell 18,000 units, the Monaro-based GTO received a lukewarm reception in the U.S. It was frequently derided for its conservative styling, which many critics felt was too anonymous to befit either the GTO heritage or the current car's performance. Aside from the styling, the GTO faithful were further insulted by GM's failure to present a U.S.-built car that incorporated any design lineage from the muscular icons of the 1960s and 1970s. Given the newly revived muscle car climate, it was also overshadowed by the Chrysler 300, the Dodge Charger, and the new Ford Mustang. Sales were also limited because of dealer tactics, such as initially charging large markups and denying requests for test drives of the vehicle. By the end of the year, the 2004s were selling with significant discounts. Sales were 13,569 of 15,728 cars for 2004.
Hey FAT NICK NICE LUMINA
but hey I have a SWEET 65 TEMPEST with GTO badgesThe Pontiac GTO was relaunched in the United States in late 2003, based on the Holden Monaro. The Monaro is a 2 door coupe variant of the Australian developed VT/VX Holden Commodore. The Commodore was in turn developed by enlarging the European designed 1994 Opel Omega B, which was marketed in its original form in the U.S. from 1997 to 2001 as the Cadillac Catera. The revival was prompted by former GM chairman Bob Lutz, who drove a Holden Monaro while on a business trip in Australia.
The GTO was produced in the suburb of Elizabeth, South Australia, and is equipped with the Corvette's LS1 ('04) and LS2 ('05-'06) V8 engine with a choice of a 6-speed manual transmission or a 4-speed automatic. The same model is sold in the United Kingdom as a Vauxhall and in the Middle East as a Chevrolet Lumina SS. GM North America made a deal with Holden for them to produce a maximum of 18,000 vehicles per year starting in late 2003 and going through to the end of the 2006 model year. 18,000 was the production limit for the model at the Australian assembly plant.
Despite high expectations by GM to sell 18,000 units, the Monaro-based GTO received a lukewarm reception in the U.S. It was frequently derided for its conservative styling, which many critics felt was too anonymous to befit either the GTO heritage or the current car's performance. Aside from the styling, the GTO faithful were further insulted by GM's failure to present a U.S.-built car that incorporated any design lineage from the muscular icons of the 1960s and 1970s. Given the newly revived muscle car climate, it was also overshadowed by the Chrysler 300, the Dodge Charger, and the new Ford Mustang. Sales were also limited because of dealer tactics, such as initially charging large markups and denying requests for test drives of the vehicle. By the end of the year, the 2004s were selling with significant discounts. Sales were 13,569 of 15,728 cars for 2004.
Last edited by sprayn93; Nov 22, 2006 at 06:34 AM.
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From: Williamsburg
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Yep you found some information on it. Now go look up some Monaro's form the 1960's and see what it looks like compared to your car.
Think about it.....the newer GTO is exactly like the old one. Has distinct Pontiac styling, the bigger of the Pontiac 2 door cars, has a hi-po v8, and is very understated in the styling department.
Think now, if Pontiac had made a newer GTO for what you thought it should be it would be just like the older one. And even look the same. Which imo would be just like the 05+ Mustangs with their retro looks. It's 2006 not 1966, times change and so do cars. In fact I'm not really a huge fan of the new Camaro coming out with it's retro styling. It was cool when Ford did it, but now everyone is trying to jump on the bandwagon. I think the GTO is good execution of what it was. Hell I wish that they had made a Chevy version and called it the Chevelle. But if you think the GTO is that horrible, you must really hate the Charger, Impala, Monte Carlo, etc huh.
Think about it.....the newer GTO is exactly like the old one. Has distinct Pontiac styling, the bigger of the Pontiac 2 door cars, has a hi-po v8, and is very understated in the styling department.
Think now, if Pontiac had made a newer GTO for what you thought it should be it would be just like the older one. And even look the same. Which imo would be just like the 05+ Mustangs with their retro looks. It's 2006 not 1966, times change and so do cars. In fact I'm not really a huge fan of the new Camaro coming out with it's retro styling. It was cool when Ford did it, but now everyone is trying to jump on the bandwagon. I think the GTO is good execution of what it was. Hell I wish that they had made a Chevy version and called it the Chevelle. But if you think the GTO is that horrible, you must really hate the Charger, Impala, Monte Carlo, etc huh.
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From: Hampton and DC
Re: GTO
I know you are looking at a LS2 GTO, but have you looked at a C5 vette. They can be had for pretty cheap. Slap a KB on it and go cobra hunting, much lighter platform. Also great for autocrossing. GL with whatever you choose
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From: Everywhere
Re: GTO
Oh here are some pix of a new widebody GTO.. (not sure if these were posted yet)
I want it..