i bet if any of you were cops for a day and had to put up with all the crap they had to you might have a different perspective on things... and second of all, cops are people, a large majority of people are idiots and assholes, so your bound to have some idiots and assholes that are also cops... but you can't say they are all one in the same... if its illegal and you do it anyways, deal with it, if you have a problem with it attack the system that made it illegal, not the guy doing his job enforcing them, i dont bitch at the lady behind the counter at wendy's because their burgers are overprice because she didn't set the price... and i hate hearing people complain about cops "breaking the law" in traffic, my ex girlfriend used to always bitch to me about some cop that was doing 55 in a 45 with out his lights on or changed lanes with out signaling, i've never seen a cop do donuts in the middle of broad street so either you live in the town super troopers was modeled after or you people needa let up on law enforcement... trust me i have some cop stories worth bitching about, most tickets like you got can be fixed by just slapping all the legal stuff on there and taking some polaroids to court, worked for me

and no i'm not a cop

 

if i were a cop for a day id go undercover at a strip club, cause theres allways something goin down there, besides the strippers then id chase random people on the highway

 

shut yo' mouth biatch....ok police can enforce va state law on private property with written permission by the property owner, to include traffic infractions. criminal law is different. we can enforce criminal law where ever.by criminal law i mean assault and battery, murder, narcotic violations, ect. now if you are driving on public highway, the officer observes the violation on public highway, however conducts the traffic stop on private property....sorry you're screwed. Now private security and "special police" can conduct traffic stops, issue summons and enforce all the laws they are employed to enforce on private property. it's a confusing issue, i would research it...and once again i say go to court.

 

I agree with most of you that cops seem to have nothing better to do than to mess with the import crowd and sportbike crowd. We are more noticeable.

When I retire from the military I plan on becomming a cop. But here's the difference:

I won't be targeting 18 year old kids; I'll be targeting the semi-trailer doing 80 in a 55 down the highway. I'll be targeting the blue haired old lady doing 30 in a 45. I'll be targeting the dude in the passing lane going the exact same speed as the person next to him in the travel lane so no one can pass. I'll be targeting the 5 cars in a row that still take that left hand turn AFTER their light has turned red so they are now blocking oncoming traffik.

People and cops and society always want to bitch and moan about road rage and those dumb kids out there on the streets.

I think we as a society should be concetrating on WHY I get so pissed off on my way home.

Sure someone speeding is bad; but there are a hell of allot of other things that can be even worse.

As for the exhaust situation; I think it's bullshit as well. I can be pulled for my Hiyama because a cop THINKS it's too loud? Show me your DB meter pal. But a dude on a harley can roll by at 9k rpm's blowing everyone's eardrums out and that's perfectly fine?

And btw; whoever is the person that claimed those exhausts were stock: talk to the dudes that pull of the mufflers and either throw on baffles or straight pipes for better performance and tq.

Those are far from stock and 100 times as loud. But they look stock so they aren't messed with.

Your best defense like the cop on here said is to go to court and have a lawyer. They are paid to know the law. Just because the guy who pulled you over is a cop doesn't mean he is an expert at the law. He can be wrong too.

 

thats giving the harley's valve train alot of credit ... actually when i got my exhaust ticket a harley with open exhausts came by, it was like 2 a.m. and you could literally hear him 2-3 miles down broad street after he passed, i made a comment but the officer just gave me a ugly look... but my exhaust was loud so i deserved the ticket and i put the stock back on and they dismissed it, the judge was really cool even though the cop was a dick

 

That's why my stock is on. But everyone thinks it's an aftermarket anyway. It's just a stock Yoshi.

 

Well dude you are already off to a bad start.You are making the worst mistake already and you are not even a cop yet. You are profiling people....yup some defense attorney is gonna eat you up in court. A word of advice to you don't "target" anyone. I go to work and i give no one any special attention. If you break the law you get treated like everyone else, You either get a ticket, or God forbid you get arrested. I don't go into work saying...lets see how many people i can arrest today. I go into work everyday saying " lets try to make it home in one piece." The only groups, or whatever you wanna call 'em, i pay more attention to are the gun toatin' narcotic dealers and users. I am the officer that you see in the worst parts of town, not only are they my district, but i like that. I like takin those kinds of people to jail. I hate to break it to ya guys but equipment stops such as tint, tail lights out, broken windshields, and other petty crap like that help get drugs and guns, murderers and rapists, kidnappers and sexual offenders off the street. You guys are just gonna have to get over the fact that a policer officer is going to stop you for an infraction of law, thats part of our jobs. I will admit we have some traffic nazis, but stopping cars and stopping people for the smallest stuff gets the above mentioned lawless citizens off the streets and in jail. You people always say that we are not doing our jobs when we stop cars, but yes we are. if you check the va state code book....start at the 46.2 section and those are all the traffic laws. you break 'em and you risk facing the consequences, same as any other crime. just because you get stopped by 1 cop, you guys think we are not doin our jobs. 1 cop stops you and you guys forget about the 25 others that are workin somewhere else in the city bustin somebody else for somethin bigger and better. Guys and Gals, the police will always be here, and there will always be sombody breakin some law somewhere.....get over it.

 

i've never heard of a cop messing with a bike about signals, mirrors, exhaust, plate, stickers nothing... they dont really know the laws surrounding bikes or just plain dont know bikes.. i got pulled over on mine, pretty loud exhaust, no signals front or rear, plate was behind the rear mudguard so you can't see it at all, no inspection, no county sticker, no registration(on me anyways) but he let me go because i was the first person in weeks that actually had a motorcycle license

but i'm confused, you said its stock, but its a yoshimura? thats not stock

 

yeah ok, when was the last time you seen a STOCK exhaust Harley? When cops pull you over for an exhaust ticket, it says in violation of exhaust not be a factory part. but in the comments they put "loud". so please don't give me any fucking shit about they are just doing their job. they are ALL profiling imports and sport bikes. by law no automotive can alter their suspension that means "EVEN LIFTING TRUCKS". but they don't get pulled over because those are not imports. an experience i had, on my 6th exhaust ticket and 2nd altered suspension ticket (by the way i've always beat it in court) a mustang rolls by at like 5k rpms followed by a lifted truck cruise by and i looked at the cops and said oh but they are within standards right. when i went to court there was 8 other people with exhaust tickets(all of which were import cars). i proved to the judge that cop was profiling, he looked like an ass in court. and since i have a greddy exhaust, which is 50 state legal, i got off with that. cop couldn't prove that i lowered my car cause my car looks low from stock, had pics of a stock teg with mine and couldn't tell the difference. so basically i got off.

cops in va will always profile imports and sportbikes. so don't give me any of that doing their job bullshit, there are REAL bad drivers out there speeding, reckless driving, NOT ACCELERATING IN THE FREAKING ACCELERATION LANE, etc. but yet they are gonna give me a muffler ticket while my car is parked. and they are doing their job. yeah ok only way you won't get pulled over is if you buy a domestic.

 

so because exhaust i should be treated the same as a drug dealer right? MAN I LOVE COPS!!