That's what I said, so watch out, you'll join me in the "that's the dumbest thing you've ever said" group

 

first off, i have never complained about reciving a ticket for something i know is illegal, which has only been once in 3 years, if i am driving on a public road and i get pulled over then fine, thats the way it is. BUT if my car is parked in a parking lot and they come in and start writing tickets that is bullshit, and comletley unnessary, at least sit there and wait till i drive out of the parking lot then pull me over, casue they definatly do not have anything better to do. You keep saying its their job, fuck that, their job is not to babysit parking lots and walk around inspecting cars inside of them. There are plenty of cars on the road that can be harassed lets just leave it to there. They are slowly taking away from our independence and pretty soon they will be coming into our driveways while our cars are parked and writing illegal mod tickets. Oh yeah and hi im Sean, now go step into reality

 

I don't agree with certain vehicle laws such as exhaust...it's not hurting anyone. But when it comes to suspension, there's a real reason that the law is in effect. What happens when you slam into the back of a lifted truck? Your head is gonna get chopped off because your bumper is too low to collide with theirs and you get their bumper to your neck. It's only to keep you safe. 14 inches is pretty low anyways, why can't everyone just comply with the law? While I agree that it was bullshit to get a ticket like that, it IS the law, and there IS a reason for it. It only takes a few minutes to raise a car a few inches. I will help if you need me to, I'd rather spend a few minutes helping someone raise a car then hearing about something horrible on the news.

 

Not always true. If you live in an apartment complex that is considered private property. But if in your lease it states that you can't park your vehicle within the apartments complex unless it is legally registered, insured and has a current inspection then police can ticket your vehicle for illegally parking on private property as well as ticket you for all the infractions if your car doesn't meet those requirements.

I live at brookfield and after one cop issued warnings to a bunch of cars they are all now parked on the street. But he never followed up to get them on the street as well.

 

Here's something I've been wondering. I've seen cars get pulled for their exhaust being too loud when they are just driving normal and doing the speed limit. I want to know why cops never seen to pull over harley's that are 1905732 times louder? If it's some kid with a loud exhaust weaving in and out of traffic then I can see the cop pulling him over and writing him a reckless ticket along with an exhaust ticket if he wants. But seriously, when I'm driving next to one of those harley's, I can't hear anything at all except their bike. So why are they allowed to be so fucking loud, but a car with an exhaust on it just cruising and obeying speed limits still gets pulled for it???

Also, I agree with MeanGreenGSX on this one. I think it's pretty fucked for a cop to go into a parking lot and write illegal modification tickets for a car that is just sitting their with nobody around it. They should be out looking for "real" crimes being commited. A car sitting in a parking lot isn't hurting anybody....

 

Yeah, he knows this, because i argued the same thing to him.

 

I seriously don't know how this issue always seems to confuse people -- the main reasons that 'exhausts are illegal' (that phrase is misused and confusing) are not for sound purposes. A honda civic comes with an exhaust that's not noticeable -- when the owner modifies that exhaust (which is ILLEGAL) and it makes it louder, that lets an officer know that the exhaust has likely been modified. Harleys don't get pullec over because those loud exhausts are STOCK -- they are not modified. Even if an owner does modify it, an officer with anything less of a complete knowledge of Harley Davidson exhausts wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a stock exhaust, and a modified one. Aftermarket exhausts for motorcycles do not come with a huge red sign saying "this is a modified exhaust" to alert police officers. But when someone puts a huge, loud exhaust of their civic, they're just asking for attention.

Whether anyone 'agrees' with the laws on exhausts or not is besides the point. Cops are not legislators, they exist to enforce laws. They're humans and fuck up just like the rest of us. But it is their right, and their job to give tickets for vehicle violations, and if you choose to break the law, you're putting yourself at risk of paying the consequences.

Another thing -- people in Hampton roads are not being murdered every minute of every hour. Police departments allocate their resources to cover all crimes -- so when someone is pulling your ass over for your exhaust, there are other police officers working on 'real' crimes as you would call it. I hope nothing ever happens to you to where you ever need the police, because you really seem like an ungrateful piece of shit who likes to whine. If you can enforce laws better and solve our community's crime problem, which I'm assuming you can since you seem to have the answer to resource allocation, please be my guest, but quit bitching. A car with illegal modifications may not 'be hurting anyone' but it's illegal all the same. I'm not saying certain auto modifications laws don't seem retarded, but take it up with the people who write the laws, not the people that enforce them.

 

you're right, exhaust alterations dont hurt anyone...i agree with you...

i do agree with you on the suspension part to a certain extent. i agree that cutting your springs just to make your car look nice(maybe in some peoples opinion) is an obvious hazard. the most that any real enthusiast would drop is two inches or three...how would that change the fact that the truck is still higher than the car. and lowering your car correctly can help diminish body roll. why not put regulations on trucks that are lifted and are high as tha sky? thats not factory specifications. its altering it.


thats what i thought at first....

 

Lifting a truck beyond a certain point is illegal also. Why they don't get pulled for it still baffles me also. Most have altered exhaust and don't get tickets for it either. I don't understand that either, all I know is that the reason for suspension laws is for safety, and my car will always stay >14.

 

Then how do the police get away with using the excuse in court that the exhaust is louder than 95db?

I see cops breaking all kinds of traffic laws ALL the time. So who exists to give police officers tickets? Nobody. What makes them any better than anybody else?

I understand that. But I was mainly referring to other traffic violations being committed. If a police officer just sits at an intersection for a couple of minutes, he/she is likely to see at least a couple of soccer moms in minivan's or those crazy bitches in SUV's doing at least 15 over.... Now what would you consider more important, ticketing some careless person in an SUV who is tailgating and speeding down the road or ticketing a car sitting still in a parking lot? I get the point that cops can ticket the car in the parking lot if they want to, but it just seems pointless when they could actually be helping the community in other ways.

Mature. No, not whining or bitching... voicing opinion.

Look at statement above...