BAD NEWS..."Cash for Clunkers"...End of Custom Cars
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Re: BAD NEWS..."Cash for Clunkers"...End of Custom Cars
It may be a voluntary proposal this time around but states like Kalifornia have repeatedly tried to push similar legislation as a mandatory bill.
In California’s case they wanted to set an arbitrary time frame, usually 15 years, and require that any car older than that be crushed and the owner paid a nominal fee for the vehicle. It wouldn’t matter if you were driving a ragged out oil burning Civic or a garage kept NSX. 15 years is 15 years.
Think about that for a minute, 15 years ago was 1993. That’s FD RX7s, NSXs, MkIV Supras if you’re into the import thing.
SEMA has been successfully in lobbying against this stuff because they organized grass roots efforts like the e-mail you received. Being voluntary just softens the general public up to the idea, next time they make it mandatory. That’s pretty much how all gun registration and then confiscation went in places like Canada, Australia, and the UK.
I’m the furthest thing from a bleed heart liberal but this sort of legislation unfairly targets minorities and the economically disadvantaged who otherwise can’t afford to buy new or later model cars. What percentage of users of this forum has bought, or rides around in an older car that they paid a few hundred bucks for?
These ideas are always pushed by the democratic party and the radical left based on half truths and junk science. Nobody questions that older cars have worse emission than modern cars. But does grandpa’s ’61 Impala that he drives on Sunday and in the 4th of July parade really pollute mote than Johnny Ricer who drives 40,000 miles of year in his 2005 Civic? Of course not.
This kind of legislation is bad news all around and we shouldn’t accept it at any level voluntary or otherwise.
In California’s case they wanted to set an arbitrary time frame, usually 15 years, and require that any car older than that be crushed and the owner paid a nominal fee for the vehicle. It wouldn’t matter if you were driving a ragged out oil burning Civic or a garage kept NSX. 15 years is 15 years.
Think about that for a minute, 15 years ago was 1993. That’s FD RX7s, NSXs, MkIV Supras if you’re into the import thing.
SEMA has been successfully in lobbying against this stuff because they organized grass roots efforts like the e-mail you received. Being voluntary just softens the general public up to the idea, next time they make it mandatory. That’s pretty much how all gun registration and then confiscation went in places like Canada, Australia, and the UK.
I’m the furthest thing from a bleed heart liberal but this sort of legislation unfairly targets minorities and the economically disadvantaged who otherwise can’t afford to buy new or later model cars. What percentage of users of this forum has bought, or rides around in an older car that they paid a few hundred bucks for?
These ideas are always pushed by the democratic party and the radical left based on half truths and junk science. Nobody questions that older cars have worse emission than modern cars. But does grandpa’s ’61 Impala that he drives on Sunday and in the 4th of July parade really pollute mote than Johnny Ricer who drives 40,000 miles of year in his 2005 Civic? Of course not.
This kind of legislation is bad news all around and we shouldn’t accept it at any level voluntary or otherwise.
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i have a hard time believing that this going to go anywhere.
by the way the OP basically just posted the plot to the animated movie "Robots"
by the way the OP basically just posted the plot to the animated movie "Robots"
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I wonder if it has anything to do with the Car companys haveing problems? Since the government doesn't really want to do the bail out than they just put the consumers in a corner for them to buy something new? I don't know
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Of course it does. It encourages people to get rid of their older junk cars for a new reliable car, and of course they're going to push domestic vehicles.
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Re: BAD NEWS..."Cash for Clunkers"...End of Custom Cars
Me too. And although I am also capable of seeing both sides, this act would simply push me to go out and buy a new IMPORT car, if anything. But in all honesty, I like my old skool civic.....they will never take what I enjoy away from me, unless, that is, they want to pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
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Re: BAD NEWS..."Cash for Clunkers"...End of Custom Cars
It may be a voluntary proposal this time around but states like California have repeatedly tried to push similar legislation as a mandatory bill.
In California’s case they wanted to set an arbitrary time frame, usually 15 years, and require that any car older than that be crushed and the owner paid a nominal fee for the vehicle. It wouldn’t matter if you were driving a ragged out oil burning Civic or a garage kept NSX. 15 years is 15 years.
Think about that for a minute, 15 years ago was 1993. That’s FD RX7s, NSXs, MkIV Supras if you’re into the import thing.
SEMA has been successfully in lobbying against this stuff because they organized grass roots efforts like the e-mail you received. Being voluntary just softens the general public up to the idea, next time they make it mandatory. That’s pretty much how all gun registration and then confiscation went in places like Canada, Australia, and the UK.
I’m the furthest thing from a bleed heart liberal but this sort of legislation unfairly targets minorities and the economically disadvantaged who otherwise can’t afford to buy new or later model cars. What percentage of users of this forum has bought, or rides around in an older car that they paid a few hundred bucks for?
These ideas are always pushed by the democratic party and the radical left based on half truths and junk science. Nobody questions that older cars have worse emission than modern cars. But does grandpa’s ’61 Impala that he drives on Sunday and in the 4th of July parade really pollute mote than Johnny Ricer who drives 40,000 miles of year in his 2005 Civic? Of course not.
This kind of legislation is bad news all around and we shouldn’t accept it at any level voluntary or otherwise.
In California’s case they wanted to set an arbitrary time frame, usually 15 years, and require that any car older than that be crushed and the owner paid a nominal fee for the vehicle. It wouldn’t matter if you were driving a ragged out oil burning Civic or a garage kept NSX. 15 years is 15 years.
Think about that for a minute, 15 years ago was 1993. That’s FD RX7s, NSXs, MkIV Supras if you’re into the import thing.
SEMA has been successfully in lobbying against this stuff because they organized grass roots efforts like the e-mail you received. Being voluntary just softens the general public up to the idea, next time they make it mandatory. That’s pretty much how all gun registration and then confiscation went in places like Canada, Australia, and the UK.
I’m the furthest thing from a bleed heart liberal but this sort of legislation unfairly targets minorities and the economically disadvantaged who otherwise can’t afford to buy new or later model cars. What percentage of users of this forum has bought, or rides around in an older car that they paid a few hundred bucks for?
These ideas are always pushed by the democratic party and the radical left based on half truths and junk science. Nobody questions that older cars have worse emission than modern cars. But does grandpa’s ’61 Impala that he drives on Sunday and in the 4th of July parade really pollute mote than Johnny Ricer who drives 40,000 miles of year in his 2005 Civic? Of course not.
This kind of legislation is bad news all around and we shouldn’t accept it at any level voluntary or otherwise.