has anyone heard how much either of these cars is going to weigh?

just curious, but weight kills me since i drive an integra and just about every civic hybrid on the road can whip my ass.

 

I'm curious to see the performance #s for these cars. I'd love to have either one, but 30K I don't have to (or would) spend on a turbo 4 banger Evo/STi or not..

 

28500 is the price for the Evo 8 according to motortrend, although there is bound to be a dealer markup of some sort.

The wieght of it is around 3250 (a little more than your integra, but welcome to the world of performers, IE: Supra:3400, 300zx: 3700?, VR4:3800, DSM:3300) The only sports car out there I can think of thats light is the 7, and that is partly because it has no back seats and its motor is about the size of my fist .

 

I want one! lol I would like to see more performance numbers on it too, I have seen 0-60 in the 4s, but no 1/4 mile times. Oh and 300ZX weights about 3400~3500lbs, and it has no backseats as well unless it is a 2+2 NA They are relatively the same weight as the supra, depends on who you ask. mmmmmmm evo drooooooooool

 

O ok thanks for clearing that up. The JDM Evo's pulled 4.6-7 for 0-60 and 12.9 as their 1/4. The american version will be different is my guess though.

 

We got a de tuned "americans are a bunch of fatasses" Evo, while the WRX STi is a one of a kind "americans are loaded, lets give them something special" car that the rest of the world will want.
Imagine, Japanese companies wanting OUR engines...excellent..


And chris, suck my NA ass.

 

as far as straight lines, you are correct.. however, there is a HUGE difference in the handling, braking, etc.. pretty much every aspect other than acceleration, the EVO is far superior to the DSMs in.. yes it has the same powerplant with a similar AWD system, but the car is a helluva lot different in every other way..

i myself would rather steal parts off it assuming they fit my DSM and keep my DSM though

 

The main difference was the ayc and acd. That is the ONLY thing on the Evo that you Dsmers cant upgrade to. Hell you guys can get Altezzas too if you wanted. Yeah its built on a stiff chassis...but unless your going to rally your dsm and fly 5 feet in the air and land on uneven GRAVEL which is turning into a Sharp LEFT, i dont think you will ever notice the difference.

highPST TSI Guy: i would do the same too



actually working on my car my car isnt that bad at all. ( yes the uppipe was a PITA, and the injectors will be a PITA) but i know some people who work on both engines..and they say the ej20 is easier to work on than the 4g63. as far as aftermarket goes...the ej20 is just as old too so its definatly on PAR as far as the tuning goes as the 4g63...just not in the United States ( for obvious reasons).

 

i honestly don't see how any sober person could say that.. i understand that if i knew the EJ20 like i know the 4g63 it would probably seem a lot simpler too.. but to me the space i have to work with when working on my DSM compared to the space under the hood of a WRX is like comparing a mansion and a motor home.. of course you poor 2G DSM guys are in the same boat

 

I bow down . I know only from the little experience I have with a WRX and the small bit I read about them, I have never really met any seriously modified versions, and I guess I just never see any seriously modified ones. After seeing your cramped engine bay I could only imagine working on that thing though. As Dave said I cant see anyone saying a 4G63 is harder to work on than the EJ20, but to each man his own. I think my roommate mike's B18C has to be the easiest looking engine to work on out of all of us. For the extra room he has under his hood I will always be jealous .

I will give you one thing though, your fuel pump HAS to be easier to replace than the one on my car I just replaced the other day, dear god I seriously couldnt have done it without the help of my smaller handed friend, there seriously was just no way, heh.