How is drifting judged? I'm still not getting this. I was looking up some info on the new Mustang and found that 2 were being used in the American D1. I found the videos that I have linked. It is the Mustang driven by Ken Gushi, and the GTO of Rhys Millen. No one passes, and the Mustang seems to me to be taking some odd lines but still wins. I dont get it. Can someone 'splane this to me.

Here is the vid http://www.g4tv.com/videos/index.html?video_key=9511

There is a Vorizon add first but once it starts there are like 3 more vids.

I watched the one with the Falken Mustang and the Viper and the Viper goes wide and gets past so I can see that the Mustang would win. But what is good and what is bad.

Thanx I'm not knocking Drifting I'm trying to understand why its so popular.

 

well i assure u it sure as hell aint popular cuz of american d1....its supposedly judged by style or sum shyt...i dunno..."PRO" drifting is ghey imo (dont mind me im just hating cuz ill never be albe to eat,pay rent, and put gas in my car from drifting lol

 

Its judged by who has the best angle and entry and constant speed.

Then Tandom runs are judged by how close the follwer can stay, or pass the leader.

 

What is the "best angle"??? If you watch the video the first run the GTO starts his drift early and wide, the Mustang closes in at corner exit. Both cars loose a ton of momentum. The GTO still has enought power to slide the tail around during the next hard left. The Mustang just runs nose to tail with the GTO through that left and next right, only slideing the tail on the exit of the right hander in the "slolom". Then both cars slide aroung the final left and its over. The GTO did give up ground in the first long right hander, but was able to slide the car through all remaining turns and had distance between him and the Mustang. Yet at the start of the 2nd run the anouncer seens to think the Mustang won, yet it was judged even.

Just examining the first run, What did the Mustang do that kept him even with the GTO? It shouldnt be too hard to explain as there are only 4 corners.

 

Don't forget the cone (or whatever they use at the event) that they're supposed to get as close as possible to durring the drift.

 

the video isnt working for me, ill try to watch on another computer. I saw that competion on g4 a few nights back..

 

bleh, driftin contests suck. touge 4 life

 

Dont post here if all you have to say is "Drifting Sucks", or "I hate drifting" if your joking or not, I dont care. I dont see what the big deal of drifting is. But after I found these vids I figured someone could explain it to me. I understand there is alot of skill and car control needed but this whole thing that its an art... how do you judge an art??? I mean if its something like iceskating, or ballroom dancing I understand, but there rules for judging seem a little more official.

Soooooo..... If you have never drifted, or been on a road course, dont talk. I'm not trying to be a dick I just want info fron the guys who drift. I think it would be good to have a disscussion between the guys who drift and the guys who track their cars (Drag and agressive street driving dont count)

Thanx

Lets keep this on topic... I know it maybe hard on DragVA!!!

 

Here, this is the topic closer..



Judging

What are the judges looking for?
Drifting is a sport that is judged similar to ice skating or Snowboarding. Just like any sport, there are criteria to look for. There are minimum requirements to a good drift that everyone must understand such as:

Entry speed-This is part of the criteria that will be met very easily with the use of a radar gun with speed display. Entry speed is one of the most visible aspects that judges will look for because it will determine the other parts of a driver?s drift.

Line clipping-This is another part of drift that the judges will be looking into. The "Clipping" line is often judged by how well the driver take a drive line. The line itself should always involve the vehicle hitting the right apex of a corner. Judges prefer to see a driver take a tight line around a corner, putting the nose of the car as close as possible to the apex of the turn. Getting the back end of the car close to the outside of a turn also demonstrates car control and can score the driver additional points.

Angle and counter steer-Driving angle of the vehicle is the angle of rotation of the vehicle relative to the direction of its travel. Basically this means that the farther the back end of the car comes around (without losing control), the more points a driver would score in this category. Angle also refers to the length of time a drift is maintained as well as the average angle of the vehicle during the turn. This means that getting the back end to come around for a short period of time won?t score the driver many points, even if the angle of rotation was significant. A vehicle that exhibits extreme angles without spinning out will be awarded high points.

Presentation-How a driver puts speed, line and angle the best will score very well with the judges. There is also another factor and that is how the driver presents his or her drift technique. Just like any other form of competition, there will be an individual with a certain spark or energy that makes them stand out during competition. When a competitor puts that extra flare or energy into their run, the judges may pay more attention to the individual. The most universal component of this category is smoke. The more tire smoke generated by a vehicle while drifting the more points a driver will score. This category previously included the driver sticking hands/legs out the window or opening the door in a turn, but D1 now requires windows to be rolled up and prohibits door opening, demonstrating a shift in emphasis to more technical aspects of driving.

How is "Tsuiso" Battle Judged?
"Tsuiso" is the Japanese term for "Twin Battle Drift". This head to head style of drifting is judged by the same principles as a solo round. However, there is a high level of strategy behind it that provides for a competitive level and an awesome show for the spectators. The exact judging of this event is difficult to explain because the judges rely on their many years of track experience and knowledge of the vehicle dynamics when issuing the exact points.

Offensive: Generally the chasing driver has the offensive when in the Twin Battle. An easy analogy is Cowboys at a rodeo competing in the round up or two jet pilots engaged in a dog fight. They chase their prey and do what ever they can to get their target into a dead zone where the prey cannot maneuver from. This same principle is used in the Tsuiso style. Driver use their vehicle and its drift to position into a space that minimizes the running drivers ability to keep a good line while staying in a high speed drift. The chasing driver MUST at all times demonstrate a superior drift in order to A) Keep the pressure on the lead driver B) Steal and block a line that may allow the lead driver a good opportunity for a drift. C) Be awarded a superior number of points If a chasing driver is unable to keep up and maintain pressure on the lead driver this will not be good when the time comes for points to be awarded.

Defensive: When a drive takes the lead in the Tsuiso battle the ideal strategy is to perform a drift a a much higher speed, good line, and a greater angle than the chasing driver. If a lead driver can shake off or intimidate a chasing driver many times the chasing driver will make a mistake when trying to compensate for what seems like erratic actions of the lead car. When a lead driver can pull away with a good angle, following the ideal line while maintaining a controlled drift, the chasing driver has all the pressure to increase performance. The lead driver at this point is winning. Lead drivers many times demonstrate superior skill by suddenly entering a drift at a great angle and going directly to the inside of the corner. TO the following driver it appears as though they will T-bone the lead car so they back down and take measures to avoid the lead car. Many times that will cause the chasing car to loose a great amount of speed and not be able to properly execute the corner in a full drift… or even worst they may spin out or hit the barriers. This is a ideal outcome for the lead driver in Tsuiso battles.

 

Ok I get all of that and must say thanx for posting a well thought out explination.

But who determins the "Apex point" that will be judged. In racing each driver may have a different line for a section of a course thus having a different apex.

But, I think I get it now. You know if people could explain how drifting is judged like posted above I think more people would not rag on it so much. But like alot of things its the uninformed people on both sides of this arguement that seem to sterotype each group of enthuisist's

(Sorry for any spelling errors I went to public school)