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Old 08-07-2004, 05:25 AM
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Right now i have a stock b16........i wanted to do a simple cam upgrade. I want to get some feedback on what will give me better results.

I was thinking about either getting ITR cams and intake manifold, or the skunk two stage one cams and intake manifold.

Just wondering what would give me more bang. Let me know what you think.
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What upgrades do you have done to the car at the moment?
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the stage 1 cams which require no engine modifications if i remember correct
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Old 08-07-2004, 08:48 PM
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to the car.......well nothing really. Cheep Coilovers, and drag radials in teh front. Like i said the engine is bone stock.
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Toda spec c are good IMO but expensive. Get some gen 2's they will be cheaper. I would go turbo and stay with the stock motor. Just at 6-7 psi, you will have more hp than any NA motor you could build. I will never have a NA motor again.
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yes , but the spec c's require full valvetrain upgrade.
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Skunk 2 recommends a valvetrain upgrade for all their engine parts, here is a cut and paste from their page about their cams:

Stage I: Stage I profiles are designed to offer the widest possible powerband and be compatible with factory valvetrain components. These camshafts are designed to retain stock idle and are currently CARB EO-pending. Upgrading to Skunk2 Racing valve springs is recommended. Stage I profiles are relatively easy to tune for maximum power output.

Stage II: Stage II profiles are more aggressive than Stage I profiles, and are designed for modified engines operating at higher rev ranges. Upgrading to Skunk2 Racing valvetrain components is required for proper operation. Stock idle and emission characteristics may be slightly compromised, but fair-to-good driveability allows them to still be used on dual-purpose vehicles. Proper tuning, an upgraded intake system, and an exhaust system are required in order to maximize the potential of these camshafts. Do not use oversized valves.

Stage III: Stage III profiles are designed for purpose-built race engines with high-rpm capabilities only! Upgrading to Skunk2 Racing valvetrain components and extensive engine work is required for the proper functioning of these camshafts. Compression and engine flow must also be significantly increased. Stage III camshafts should be installed and tuned by professional engine builders only! Do not use oversized valves.

Turbo: Turbo profiles are designed for engines with forced induction. Aggressive lift and valve opening/closing motions allow these cams to maximize power with a minimum amount of overlap. Each profile is designed with extensive input from the top racers in the sport compact industry.
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yes i know all this, i have read it over many times. What i want to know is what do you think is better, i just wanted personal opinion from some people that may have had either of these set ups.

I just bought a Skunk2 intake manifold, and a header. And i am ready to get some valvtrain stuff taken care of now. I also thought about the Skunk stage 2......due to the fact that i have the valve springs, and retainers.

So between the ITR cams, and the Skunk2 cams i want some opinions on what you all think i should do.
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