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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Ok so i am boosting my stock gsr. I want to keep it reliable and get it tuned correctly. I have a P72 Ecu and am looking into getting it tuned using Hondata. I am not going to tune it myself. I will have a reputable shop do that. Now what advantages does the S200 have over the S100 that make it worth the cost. Basically whats your opinions one which one to go with and some info on why. Thanks.
Old Sep 10, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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S100: http://www.hondata.com/s100.html

S200: http://www.hondata.com/s200.html

S300: http://www.hondata.com/s300.html
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 04:52 AM
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yeah i don't see much difference in two for what i am using it for other than expandable boost and ignition tables. Meaning that S200 is more boost friendly if i want to up the boost in the future? Definately not going with the S300 its just between the S100-S200 and what will justify the cost.
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 06:37 AM
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use whatever the tuner wants to use.

but theres also crome and uberdata
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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Default Re: S100 or S200

The S100 and S200 have the same tuning options, but the S100 doesn't have datalogging, g-sensor, and 3-step. The S200 has extra interface stuff, which is why it can do those extra things.

The S100 is just a copyright key that goes inside the ECU and allows you to use a ROM made with the Hondata software. There is a serial port in the ECU that the S100 board is connected to, and the Hondata ROM looks (over the serial port) for the S100 board. If it sees the board is there, it allows the ECU to work. That's the S100 board's entire function in life, nothing else. They're making money off of software, not hardware. The S200 works the same way but adds extra hardware functions obviously.
Crome is freeware, so it doesn't use anything like that. It's actually possible to disable the Hondata code that looks for the S100 board (so anyone can use the software), but I've never done it and I'm not going to do it, so don't ask. I've heard from reputable sources that it can be done though, and I'm only putting that out there to illustrate what the S100 board is used for.

Again, I've personally never done this, and I don't condone illegal activities that take money out of the hands of decent companies. Except Microsoft. Pay your money and support Hondata, or use a freeware program like Crome. Don't use Hondata as freeware.

For normal use (i.e. not datalogging, etc.) the S100 is perfectly fine, and works exactly the same as the S200 for tuning.

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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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Default Re: S100 or S200

Originally Posted by Fabrik8
The S100 and S200 have the same tuning options, but the S100 doesn't have datalogging, g-sensor, and 3-step. The S200 has extra interface stuff, which is why it can do those extra things.
The S100 is just a copyright key that goes inside the ECU and allows you to use a ROM made with the Hondata software.
For normal use (i.e. not datalogging, etc.) the S100 is perfectly fine, and works exactly the same as the S200 for tuning.
x2^what he said.
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Default Re: S100 or S200

Originally Posted by Fabrik8
The S100 and S200 have the same tuning options, but the S100 doesn't have datalogging, g-sensor, and 3-step. The S200 has extra interface stuff, which is why it can do those extra things.

The S100 is just a copyright key that goes inside the ECU and allows you to use a ROM made with the Hondata software. There is a serial port in the ECU that the S100 board is connected to, and the Hondata ROM looks (over the serial port) for the S100 board. If it sees the board is there, it allows the ECU to work. That's the S100 board's entire function in life, nothing else. They're making money off of software, not hardware. The S200 works the same way but adds extra hardware functions obviously.
Crome is freeware, so it doesn't use anything like that. It's actually possible to disable the Hondata code that looks for the S100 board (so anyone can use the software), but I've never done it and I'm not going to do it, so don't ask. I've heard from reputable sources that it can be done though, and I'm only putting that out there to illustrate what the S100 board is used for.

Again, I've personally never done this, and I don't condone illegal activities that take money out of the hands of decent companies. Except Microsoft. Pay your money and support Hondata, or use a freeware program like Crome. Don't use Hondata as freeware.
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For normal use (i.e. not datalogging, etc.) the S100 is perfectly fine, and works exactly the same as the S200 for tuning.
now thats the kind of information im looking. Sounds like S100 is what im looking for. Since i am never going to mess with it and don't need dataloging and 3 step. Thanks a lot for the help
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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No prob. Spend the price difference on getting it dyno tuned...
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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i'd go with crome over s100 anyday...although i'd rather tune s300.
Old Sep 12, 2007 | 05:17 AM
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Hondata s100 will work just fine and if you need dyno tuning give me a call,i can also get hondata if interested
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