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JDM74 07-25-2009 07:17 PM

So you wanna lift your truck...
 
This thread is a spin off of the "getting a lift done" thread that had some good discussion about the various ways to do a lift on a truck. Feel free to post info in here about how to lift a truck based on its intended use. Make sure to state the intended use first.

iFoam 07-26-2009 08:35 AM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
daily driving / playing in the mud on weekends:

i think 6 inch suspension lift and 35's do the job perfectly.

SpeedJunkie 07-26-2009 08:51 AM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
Looking at 3.5 RE suspension lift for my TJ with some 33 inch mud terrains. Plan on mild/medium duty trail riding and driving on the beach in OBX.

Later down the road

Skid plates and a tummy tuck
Bumpers and winch
gears and lockers


How it sits now. Only had it a month so stuff should start happening soon.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/HPIM0602.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...M0605-Copy.jpg

JDM74 07-26-2009 09:19 AM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
Daily driving/ light to medium trail riding. Very limited sand.

approx. 2" torsion bar lift in the front
2" add-a-leafs rear
1" body lift
body seam flattened on the front and very limited trimming in the front
33x12.50-15 Truxxes MT stuff to the bump stops with no rubbing at full lock

The truck went every where I cared to take it at Crozet. The #1 improvement as far as offroad performance that I did was the aussie locker. The truck goes places in 2wd with the locker that it wouldn't go in 4x4 with no locker.

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...4/IMG_0474.jpg

catfSSh 07-26-2009 07:55 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
Samurai here: daily driver but likes to get down once every now and then. Sees some mountain trails with semi steep climbs and some technical rocks. Also sees a good amount of deep mud.

SPring Over Axle lift with taller shackles and new leafs. 5.12 gears front and rear. 33x12.50 mud terrains.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...downsize_2.jpg

If I could do it all over again I would have waited for YJ springs instead of getting the CJ's and would have gotten some tsl super swampers or something a little more agressive than the bfg muds.

N/A POWERED 07-27-2009 03:00 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
r.i.p all of them...haha

12'' superlift lift kit 16.5x14 welds with 40x15.5 truxxus tires and 5.13 gears
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...4f0edb5801.jpg
10'' superlift lift kit 24x12 xd rockstars 37x13.5 toyo open countrys
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...fa4fe86839.jpg
10 swayaway liftkit 20x12 welds 38x15.5 toyo open countrys
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...rain_1/one.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...8d61068b08.jpg
mudd boggin truck all custom done years ago by island off-road there the shit imo
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...91df6e7cff.jpg

Kris.Is.Foamin 07-27-2009 03:13 PM

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http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...p/DSC01260.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...p/DSC01884.jpg

I miss it

4.5" Rusty's lift on 33x12.50's

Never got stuck. Actually got my 'Hummer resque squad' sticker after pulling one out.

Stock 4.0 with a few bolt ons (Intake, TB spacer, Chip, Exhaust)

JDM74 07-27-2009 04:11 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 

Originally Posted by N/A POWERED (Post 5485346)
r.i.p all of them...haha


Originally Posted by Kris.is.awesome (Post 5485382)
I miss it

Nice pictures but you must not have read the thread. What kind of lift (not brand) and what the truck is used for. This post is to let people know that are getting into offroading what different types of lifts are out there. Posting pictures of BGT's with no explanation doesn't help.

ChevyMudtruck 07-27-2009 04:13 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
mud/offroad only

53" long stock rear springs swapped to front front and shackle reversal (shackles moved to front of spring) and rear shackle flip + added leafs (about 5.5-6 inches of lift)
3 inch body
(offroad only not street legal) 7 inch blocks front rear (1/2 plate top and bottom full welded and bolted in with 3/4 and 1 inch grade 8 bolts, no way to kick out like normal blocks) and front and rear ladder bars

17.5-25's (53x17.50 on 25 rims)
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...3eadb08052.jpg
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...97fd5d6b9c.jpg
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...79d6407c5e.png

shackle flip
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...9/FILE0155.jpg

shackle reversal
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...9/FILE0151.jpg

BAN HAMMER 07-27-2009 05:20 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
^ holy fuck thats serious.

cootees 07-27-2009 05:36 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
Trail toy\weekend driver (no mud :cool:)

approximately 5-6" lift.
Trail-Gear 3" SAS, ome 860's in the rear. Some small custom odds and ends to make things work. 32" tires for now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...r/P1000506.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...r/P1000511.jpg

OverEasy 07-27-2009 05:44 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
My turd . . . 87 Suzuki Samurai

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...7f1758528a.jpg

Full RockyRoad 6" spoa kit with OTT *over the top steering*. It rides on 31-33" tires.

Wanting more out of the Zuk I am going now with a Jeep YJ spring setup. Toyo axles, and 37's

My Samurai is used hard. Will be a Wheeler only as soon as new build is finished. Crozet&BigDogs kinds of trails. The harder the better! * I Know, I know, That's what she said :facepalm:*
Also a no mudder!

Any questions just ask. Thanks!

catfSSh 07-27-2009 08:58 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
Plans for motor swap?

OverEasy 07-28-2009 02:40 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 

Originally Posted by catfSSh (Post 5486492)
Plans for motor swap?

Me?

Nahhh. I had wanted to do a 1.6 swap but decided not to do it. I have the 1.3 still in it. I got a friend to build it for me. It got pulled out because it started to give me problems. Smoking, rattling, no power * not like it had much to begin with *.

I Got a friend I trust to rebuild the motor for me. All new internals, Shaved head, ported, new valve job, Calmini Cam & Stainless header, New exhaust . . . . . . New Radiator, GM alt upgrade, Yellow top optima. Stage ll Centerforce Clutch.

It does REAL well. Tackled everything I've put it through so far. It holds its own. With the gearing * 6.5 tc & 5.29 r/p * I don't think I will have much of a problem. I don't really drive like a redneck.

TexasGlock23 07-28-2009 03:57 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
Great thread, great info.

It really all depends on what you are looking to do with your vehicle. My experience: 1997 2 door Tahoe.

If it ends up a daily/once in a while wheeler I will go with a Dick Cepek 6.5 lift, re-gear, 35's etc or for a cheaper lift, the new Rough Country RCX lift. Don't forget the necessary mods. Small bolt on power adders and tune.

If it were serious I would SAS the damn thing. Good sites for info are www.gmfullsize.com pirate4x4 There is also a great GM tuner in Alexandria. Black Bear Performance, owner is Justin.

I have a soft spot for SAS Toyotas.

95neon95 07-29-2009 06:36 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
my plan(haven't doen it yet but will soon)

86 dodge 150 4x4

shackle/hanger flip/lowering- free and adds 4" of lift-can be done front and rear and i'll be adding at least 33s to it. gonna do some DD/whereever i decide to take it and hope i don't get stuck duty

ChevyMudtruck 07-29-2009 06:55 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 

Originally Posted by 95neon95 (Post 5492121)
my plan(haven't doen it yet but will soon)

86 dodge 150 4x4

shackle/hanger flip/lowering- free and adds 4" of lift-can be done front and rear and i'll be adding at least 33s to it. gonna do some DD/whereever i decide to take it and hope i don't get stuck duty

aren't the front shackles at the rear of the leafs like the chevy's? if so and you just add longer shackles it will point your pinion angle down and increase driveshaft angle

95neon95 07-29-2009 06:59 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 

Originally Posted by ChevyMudtruck (Post 5492168)
aren't the front shackles at the rear of the leafs like the chevy's? if so and you just add longer shackles it will point your pinion angle down and increase driveshaft angle

not sure. i saw this on a ram & ram charger forum. it was shown done to a ram truck. i'll see if i can find the link and post it up.

WutupYo 07-30-2009 12:14 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
Toyota axles
Stock gears (cuises about 2500rpm's @ 60~65mph)
6 inch all pro front springs
All pro High steer
trail gear shock hoops
trail gear axle gusset
36 in iroks on black steel 15x10's
ford rear springs
Lincoln locked rear.
Bobbed bed 10"
Power steering

Awesome mud truck, very easy to daily drive... Bumpy ride though. I would swap out the ford spring for Chevy's...

For sale too :)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...whoooop001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...whoooop004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...oooop006-1.jpg

95neon95 07-30-2009 12:57 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 

Originally Posted by ChevyMudtruck (Post 5492168)
aren't the front shackles at the rear of the leafs like the chevy's? if so and you just add longer shackles it will point your pinion angle down and increase driveshaft angle

i found the link/ i must have read it wrong. it doesn't specify if it's only for the rear. either way, i'm going with a 4-5" lift

JDM74 07-30-2009 01:12 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 

Originally Posted by WutupYo (Post 5494327)
Toyota axles
Stock gears (cuises about 2500rpm's @ 60~65mph)
6 inch all pro front springs
All pro High steer
trail gear shock hoops
trail gear axle gusset
36 in iroks on black steel 15x10's
ford rear springs
Lincoln locked rear.
Bobbed bed 10"
Power steering

Awesome mud truck, very easy to daily drive... Bumpy ride though. I would swap out the ford spring for Chevy's...

For sale too :)


How much?

vasponger 07-30-2009 02:57 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 

Originally Posted by Kris.is.awesome (Post 5485382)
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...p/DSC01260.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...p/DSC01884.jpg

I miss it

4.5" Rusty's lift on 33x12.50's

Never got stuck. Actually got my 'Hummer resque squad' sticker after pulling one out.

Stock 4.0 with a few bolt ons (Intake, TB spacer, Chip, Exhaust)

heard not a lot of good things about rustys kits, death wobble and what not. what you think, i never plan on a 4.5 in either though

SpeedJunkie 07-30-2009 03:00 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
We need to setup a trail ride to shoe creek or big levels...

vasponger 07-30-2009 03:27 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
big levels rings a bell

OverEasy 07-30-2009 03:28 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 

Originally Posted by SpeedJunkie (Post 5494811)
We need to setup a trail ride to shoe creek or big levels...

You guys plan a shoe creek run, post it up. Some local guys here in Lynchburg are planning a run there soon. I wont have my Samurai because its down for a build but I do have my stock Cherocar to run with. I would like to get out and meet a few of you on the trails!

SpeedJunkie 07-31-2009 05:40 AM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 

Originally Posted by OverEasy (Post 5494859)
You guys plan a shoe creek run, post it up. Some local guys here in Lynchburg are planning a run there soon. I wont have my Samurai because its down for a build but I do have my stock Cherocar to run with. I would like to get out and meet a few of you on the trails!


I am down, but I don't want any retards with us... People need to stay on the trail and tread lightly.

slowrx 07-31-2009 06:00 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
2005 F-250, 6 inch all spring. however, going down to 4 inches. Now that I have a beater its being built for diesel drag racing. I know the tires are to small they are just on while I decide which wheels/tires buying next.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...gphotos001.jpg

catfSSh 08-01-2009 08:03 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
I've always been curious, what happens when it rains alot and that huge stack starts collecting tons of rain water in the muffler?

slowrx 08-02-2009 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by catfSSh (Post 5499993)
I've always been curious, what happens when it rains alot and that huge stack starts collecting tons of rain water in the muffler?

What muffler? There is a a place where water can drain out, I drilled 2 little holes. One in the 90 and one in the flex pipe. Not big enough to hurt the power, just big enough to let water out. Other options = a big gay clapper, or just out a bucket over it when it rains.

ChevyMudtruck 08-02-2009 11:20 AM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 

Originally Posted by slowrx (Post 5500683)
What muffler? There is a a place where water can drain out, I drilled 2 little holes. One in the 90 and one in the flex pipe. Not big enough to hurt the power, just big enough to let water out. Other options = a big gay clapper, or just out a bucket over it when it rains.

i know a few guys that run small stacks out the hood on mud trucks . . .the ones that sit outside they put a bottle or can over . . most of the time they don't take em off when they fire em up and let em go flying lol

slowrx 08-02-2009 12:58 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 

Originally Posted by ChevyMudtruck (Post 5501029)
i know a few guys that run small stacks out the hood on mud trucks . . .the ones that sit outside they put a bottle or can over . . most of the time they don't take em off when they fire em up and let em go flying lol

Yea it started raining while i was putting it on so I just threw a bucket on it. When I go down to 4 inches it will fit in the garage. I have a beater so this is going under the knife and becoming a weekend toy. Im trying to go 12s in a giant brick.

WydOpen 08-14-2009 01:48 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 

Originally Posted by slowrx (Post 5497946)
2005 F-250, 6 inch all spring. however, going down to 4 inches. Now that I have a beater its being built for diesel drag racing. I know the tires are to small they are just on while I decide which wheels/tires buying next.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...gphotos001.jpg

Good lookin' truck! I have a 2006 F250 CCSB with the 6.0L PSD in the same color...

I recently picked up a Fabtech 8" 4-link kit with blocks in the rear. I'll be running 37" Kumho KL71's on 22x11 chrome KMC Monsters. Truck is a daily driver and hauls around my toys. I'll take it down to the beaches in NC on occasion.

Lift is definitely overkill for what I want to use the truck for, I just like the look. :D

slowrx 08-14-2009 02:17 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 

Originally Posted by WydOpen (Post 5536935)
Good lookin' truck! I have a 2006 F250 CCSB with the 6.0L PSD in the same color...

I recently picked up a Fabtech 8" 4-link kit with blocks in the rear. I'll be running 37" Kumho KL71's on 22x11 chrome KMC Monsters. Truck is a daily driver and hauls around my toys. I'll take it down to the beaches in NC on occasion.

Lift is definitely overkill for what I want to use the truck for, I just like the look. :D

If you can afford it, buy aftermarket leaf springs. Icon, deaver, whatever. Your going to hate how it looks when the ass starts sagging. Its very well worth the money. I saw your posts on the org.

zfink 08-29-2009 02:47 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
SO I assume this is the place to ask butt loads of questions and hear butt loads of suggestions about what everyone would recomend/like to see on a rig? I've got a 86 f150 4x4, found a 3inch body lift for 75 bucks, brand new and complete...is this a good begining or good enough price to snag and hold on to them? What would be next..? I used to be a tuner so I know bull about lifting... im used to slapping a pair of coilovers on and calling it a day. reading this thread I realize there are pretty much endless variations... It's going to be street driven daily with the rare offroad trek, I just want a big ass truck that I gotta put girls on my soulders to get in...

JDM74 08-29-2009 06:07 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
A 3" body lift is cheap but it can be complicated as far as fan to radiator clearance, Shifter linkage, radiator hoses, brake lines, steering shaft, and that unsightly gap that shows up under the bed when you raise it up. I'm not going to say not to use a body lift, but I personally will not go higher than a 1" on my truck to keep clearance issues to a minimum. And you aren't going to need to put girls on your shoulders to put them in a F-150 with a 3" body lift. :D

slowrx 08-30-2009 02:37 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
I would also stay away from the 3 inch body lift. Step one, solid axle it (I don't think they had them in 86). Without that your not going to have a huge truck. I mean you can but the twin I beam I think it had, sucks ass. So after your solid axle swap then you can look into some lifts. But the swap alone with be a good project. Have fun!

zfink 08-30-2009 04:59 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
What are the benefits of a solid axle? Disadvantages of whatever it is I have? Don't really plan on having a mudder just a tall street truck...

JDM74 08-30-2009 05:10 PM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
Solid axles tend to be stronger than an IFS, or in your case, twin I-beam style front suspensions and therefore allow the transmission of more torque and use of larger tires with less chance of breakage. Solid axles, for the most part, also articulate more than other types of suspension therefore keeping the tires in contact with the ground.

95RogueM3 09-01-2009 06:27 AM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 

Originally Posted by JDM74 (Post 5583229)
Solid axles tend to be stronger than an IFS, or in your case, twin I-beam style front suspensions and therefore allow the transmission of more torque and use of larger tires with less chance of breakage. Solid axles, for the most part, also articulate more than other types of suspension therefore keeping the tires in contact with the ground.

And a Solid Axle doesn't constantly fall out of alignment as does an IFS when you jack them up and throw on huge tires. My F250 has a Dana 60 up front (as opposed to the factory IFS) with 9" lift and 38.5" boggers:

http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/p...ofileFront.jpg

Dubee88 09-01-2009 07:12 AM

Re: So you wanna lift your truck...
 
alignments and tire wear are concerns with the i beam front end and big tires. go solid axle for reliability but expect to drop some dough on a 60...they are getting a bit harder to find and are going for more cheddar.

you can get by on the i beam front end with 35s if you want you just need to stay on top of rotations and all that good stuff.


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