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Anyone going to the B&T Dyno day/BBQ

Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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like i said you can either use tach signal or gear ratio. Either way changing the FD wont effect hp readings only torque if it has the wrong gear ratio calcs.
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by sohc_mshue
like i said you can either use tach signal or gear ratio. Either way changing the FD wont effect hp readings only torque if it has the wrong gear ratio calcs.
but isnt horsepower=rpm x torque / 5250??
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by udumkid
but isnt horsepower=rpm x torque / 5250??
Yes. As gearing changes so does torque output and angular velocity output, but horsepower does not change (i.e in a lower gear you will have more torque output, but you will also have a lower output angular velocity).
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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Stop crying about the dyno numbers. Go find a mustang dyno and boost your (or maybe your friends) self esteem.

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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 94 SN4KE
Stop crying about the dyno numbers. Go find a mustang dyno and boost your (or maybe your friends) self esteem.

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actually if anything a mustang dyno will be the one that hurts your self esteem lol. Those things read very low in comparison to a dynojet.
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by sohc_mshue
Yes. As gearing changes so does torque output and angular velocity output, but horsepower does not change (i.e in a lower gear you will have more torque output, but you will also have a lower output angular velocity).
Ok, so lets put this as an exampleusing the hp tq equation..

if the tq is 125 at 5250 then the hp would be 124...yada,yada,yada...

but then if the torque changes due to the gear ratio(ramber you said tq changes if the fd is incorrect) for example to 115 at 5250, then the hp would be 114...wich is a 10hp loss..
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Originally Posted by 94 SN4KE
Stop crying about the dyno numbers. Go find a mustang dyno and boost your (or maybe your friends) self esteem.

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Sorry, but I dont trust anything with the name MUSTANG on it
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by udumkid
Ok, so lets put this as an exampleusing the hp tq equation..

if the tq is 125 at 5250 then the hp would be 124...yada,yada,yada...

but then if the torque changes due to the gear ratio(ramber you said tq changes if the fd is incorrect) for example to 115 at 5250, then the hp would be 114...wich is a 10hp loss..
if the gear ratio changed then the output rpm would no longer be 5250. If the torque went down then the rpm would go up and hp would still be 125. Assuming this is the same car with a simple change in gear ratio. Get a good mechanical system design book and this will all be explained.
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Originally Posted by Turbo Neon
How exactly were everyone's numbers jacked up? I am assuming you are saying this because your friends Civic didn't make what you guys thought it would? I do not believe you dynoed a car that day if I am correct. Please let me know how everyone's numbers were jacked up so I can understand.

If it is what I am assuming and you are saying the dyno is wrong because your guess at the horsepower was wrong then I can do nothing for that. 99% of the time we have found that the Dynapak reads 10% less horsepower than a standard dynojet roller dyno. The dynapak is a a tool strictly for tuning and eliminates any error by attaching the hubs to the car. If my assumption is wrong and you have another reason please let me know.



The way the Dynapak gets its horsepower is far more accurate than any roller dyno out there. Horsepower numbers can change depending on how a car is strapped down or what tires are used on a roller. Dynapak eliminates any of these issues by attaching the hubs to the car.
Originally Posted by 94 SN4KE
Stop crying about the dyno numbers. Go find a mustang dyno and boost your (or maybe your friends) self esteem.

/thread
Originally Posted by sohc_mshue
actually if anything a mustang dyno will be the one that hurts your self esteem lol. Those things read very low in comparison to a dynojet.
Read the comments in bold please.

Now a real life example for reinforcement:
Years ago I dyno'd my Mustang at B&T with their dynapack and made 250rwhp. At the same time another Mustang dyno'd at Excessive Motorsports roller dyno in Manassas, and made 300rwhp. We raced and I won by atleast two cars, shutting down early. I'm sure we could calculate other variables for the win...but the point is that I pulled away hard.

I would rather have ACCURATE dyno numbers, instead of INFLATED dyno numbers to brag about to friends.
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 94 SN4KE
Read the comments in bold please.

Now a real life example for reinforcement:
Years ago I dyno'd my Mustang at B&T with their dynapack and made 250rwhp. At the same time another Mustang dyno'd at Excessive Motorsports roller dyno in Manassas, and made 300rwhp. We raced and I won by atleast two cars, shutting down early. I'm sure we could calculate other variables for the win...but the point is that I pulled away hard.

I would rather have ACCURATE dyno numbers, instead of INFLATED dyno numbers to brag about to friends.
Are you talking about a MUSTANG brand dyno or dynoing a mustang? I simply stated that mustang brand dynos read much lower than the industry standard dynojet roller dyno. Dynojets give out overly inflated numbers. Most other dynos give out "true" readings. Although many dynos have options to manipulate the numbers to read higher than the actual readings. Either way comparing dyno numbers is pointless unless its done on the same exact dyno. Its a tuning tool and thats it. Either way I havent seen too many properly setup mustang brand dynos that would boost your self esteem over a dynapack.

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