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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf64
I'm curious about the first Eclipse dyno graph that made 286whp. From my understanding this is not a first or second generation model driven by the 4g63, but rather either a 3g or 4g eclipse which were N/A v6 (6g72 if I remember correctly). What kind of mods did the eclipse have to put down that kind of power? If I remember correctly, the owner said that the car was not boosted, so the only explanation I can come up with is nitrous. The car, in the highest trim, comes with 265 bhp and this dyno is reading 286 whp!
The Si with just exhaust is putting down 203WHP,the 350z is putting down 248whp stock. Im curious too with the numbers.
Old Mar 3, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Surely the car was pretty heavily modified no? Approximating a 15% drivetrain loss 286whp comes out to ~336bhp which is nearly 100 more brake horsepower than these cars are rated to have. No car is that overrated from the factory so I deduced it has been modded. To my knowledge, the aftermarket for 3g/4g eclipses is pretty limited because it is overshadowed by its much better older platform (1g and 2g T/E/Ls), so I was wondering what kind of mods it had to achieve these kinds of results.
The one i saw dyno at pas at i/h/e and a fuel tune. I've seen a number of these running low 13's at the track with boltons. Either way they are just numbers. The dyno is a tuning tool first and foremost. Comparing numbers between different dynos is retarded. Also this dyno has a 15% added correction in the software. Thats what we were told by the manufacturer would produce similar results to a dynojet. If most people saw what their car actually makes on the dyno they would cry because they are so much lower than a dynojet(which has now become the industry standard for comparing numbers) would read.

Just for comparison here is a dyno of another eclipse i found with boltons. This is on a low reading mustang dyno too!

http://www.club4geclipse.com/modules...=21520&start=0

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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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I wasn't cross comparing dynos, just comparing the results this dyno got with some crank horsepower estimates. I am also aware that the dyno is just a tuning tool, but I was just curious about those numbers since they stuck out so much to me. It does not make sense in my head that a 350z makes 30whp less than a stock 4g eclipse when a 350z is rated for 300bhp and the eclipse is rated for 265bhp.

I guess I've been underestimating 4g eclipses...it looks like if they weren't fwd and heavy pigs, they would actually be a decent platform.
Old Mar 3, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf64
I wasn't cross comparing dynos, just comparing the results this dyno got with some crank horsepower estimates. I am also aware that the dyno is just a tuning tool, but I was just curious about those numbers since they stuck out so much to me. It does not make sense in my head that a 350z makes 30whp less than a stock 4g eclipse when a 350z is rated for 300bhp and the eclipse is rated for 265bhp.

I guess I've been underestimating 4g eclipses...it looks like if they weren't fwd and heavy pigs, they would actually be a decent platform.
Factory ratings are numbers pulled out of someone's ass. You can't go by them. 250 is normal for a stock 350z, they are pretty weak.
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Default Re: Adrenaline Autoworks Dyno Day

Originally Posted by Lonewolf64
I wasn't cross comparing dynos, just comparing the results this dyno got with some crank horsepower estimates. I am also aware that the dyno is just a tuning tool, but I was just curious about those numbers since they stuck out so much to me. It does not make sense in my head that a 350z makes 30whp less than a stock 4g eclipse when a 350z is rated for 300bhp and the eclipse is rated for 265bhp.

I guess I've been underestimating 4g eclipses...it looks like if they weren't fwd and heavy pigs, they would actually be a decent platform.
If it made less power then it just means it really was weaker. I've had cars on this dyno one day, put them on there another day, and had it read within a couple horsepower...or the same horsepower dead on as the previous day weeks beforehand. It is consistent so that eclipse really is just making damn good power . Honestly I think they are a great platform if there was more aftermarket support for them.
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 04:41 AM
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hey Pip sorry about sat my car was stuck at the body shop going to get it up to Agile next Thursday and then I will come by the shop on a sat night to run it!! Someday I will be on your dyno!

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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by HighPSI TSi Guy
250 is normal for a stock 350z, they are pretty weak.
pffttt. coming from a person with a car TURBO in stock form that doesnt break 200whp mark
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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I'm still amazed that I put down 203.
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pffttt. coming from a person with a car TURBO in stock form that doesnt break 200whp mark
It was also designed 20 years prior and is a much smaller motor

My comment was more in the context of what people seem to think/expect vs reality of the car. A lot of people including owners seem to think that it's some sort of super fast race car super-car when it is not, it's just a 250whp sports car. Nissan has been over-rating the Z in the power department on OEM specs for 20 years. Go back to 1990 and it was even worse. 300hp advertised dynoed like 220.

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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by s13@sim
pffttt. coming from a person with a car TURBO in stock form that doesnt break 200whp mark
Yep, but that was nothing to sneeze at in 1992. Not to mention that you could make that same car run high 12s/low 13s with about $100 dollars (couple gallons of 109, boost controller, and unhooked exhaust).



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