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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 06:59 AM
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-it's still overpriced considering my comparison car: the 350Z

-3) and oh yeah, the Z out performs it...forgot about that one

-you can easily get an enthusiast model (HIDs etc) for UNDER the base price of 26,370.

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You:

-I can get a 247hp, 6-speed manual Sport Package for 28,300 delivered



are you blind or do you not understand english?

better performance + lower price = WORSE?

i don't care what it was designed for. i don't think anyone is making the "practicality" argument except for you...

check out the Best Motoring video. numbers on paper mean nothing in the real world. my guess is the rx-8 would come in somewhere around the s2k, if not even behind that, much farther behind the first place Z.

...i'm getting tired of this argument. i never said the rx-8 sucked. you guys are just arguing for the sake of it. reaffirm your love for the car somewhere else.

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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by VR6 Vdub
are you blind or do you not understand english?

better performance + lower price = WORSE?
Even if you consider the 1.3L rotary a 2.6L piston equivalent, the Z has more displacement to make the extra horsepower. The new RENESIS rotary has the ability to take VERY well to boosting. The current setup has 0 overlap in the ports. The question here is potential, that's what I'm trying to open your eyes to see. The RX8 is also designed to be easier to control. More weight is located in the middle of the car. The engine is behind the front axle and the gas tank is in front of the rear axle. It also has a perfect 50/50 weight distribution. Stock for stock, the 350Z handles better, but modded in equal parts, the RX8 should overcome the Z.
Old Aug 10, 2003 | 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by Blasphemous
The question here is potential, that's what I'm trying to open your eyes to see.

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Stock for stock, the 350Z handles better, but modded in equal parts, the RX8 should overcome the Z.


Who the fuck said anything about potential?? I know I sure didn't...

Good job winning an argument with no one



edit: yes i know rotaries have potential. everyone and their fucking mothers know that. last time i checked we were talking about the cars stock vs stock...
Old Aug 10, 2003 | 07:13 AM
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Originally posted by Blasphemous
The RX8 is also designed to be easier to control. More weight is located in the middle of the car. The engine is behind the front axle and the gas tank is in front of the rear axle. It also has a perfect 50/50 weight distribution.

Stock for stock, the 350Z handles better

Not really sure what you mean by this. Yes, the RX-8 handles very well. I never claimed it didn't. I said the Z handles BETTER, which you seem to agree with.
Old Aug 10, 2003 | 07:24 AM
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Originally posted by VR6 Vdub
ooo looks i'm p\/\/n3D~!

or not...
suit yourself, i never said anything about owning someone

it's still overpriced considering my comparison car: the 350Z

1) i compared it to a year old car (which i acknowledged)
2) it is more expensive even WITHOUT the dealer markup
3) and oh yeah, the Z out performs it...forgot about that one

you can easily get an enthusiast model (HIDs etc) for UNDER the base price of 26,370. and it's quite possible to get a performance model for around 28k, which really blows the rx-8 out of the water.
i'm assuming this price is for a 1-year-old used Z, since according to edmunds.com a new '04 Enthusiast Z is still going for 29k.

i don't think it's fair to compare a brand-new car to a 1 year old used car, pricing wise at least.

and for your information...there's a reason why i haven't visted any mazda dealerships at all. oh i dunno, maybe it's because i feel it's a waste of my time.
well sucks for you, you'll never experience the beauty of a NA rotary engine. Find me another company that makes a NEW rotary car and i may reconsider

so die
nah, life is good right now

does your company loyalty require you to be a jackass?
no, just to people that needs it
Old Aug 10, 2003 | 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by VR6 Vdub
Not really sure what you mean by this. Yes, the RX-8 handles very well. I never claimed it didn't. I said the Z handles BETTER, which you seem to agree with.
lol someone doesn't understand the concept of yaw inertia
Old Aug 10, 2003 | 07:39 AM
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Wow, I've been put in my place. I am so humbled. Your attitude in your first and second posts would seem to show that you are indeed an asshole, provoked or not.

All I did is give my opinion, backed up by facts. Gonna address this one last time, then I will not be replying the this thread again. Like I said before, you seem to enjoy arguing for the sake of it. I, however, do not. So feel free to knock yourself out and consider this a win, if you so wish.

1) No, the price is for a 2003 model, not the 2004. A NEW (NOT USED) 2003 model. You seem to spend a lot of time at dealerships, so I will assume you know what I am referring to.

2) Just because I do not go to Mazda dealerships does that mean I will never own a used RX-7? I think not. My tastes just do not include new Miatas and RX-8s. When the future RX-7 is here, then I may pay one a visit.

3) "so die" I guess the sarcasm did not make it through your computer screen. Stick your tounge out and try to say it. That's how I read your original use of that statement.

4) Yaw inertia is irrelevent. The Z handles better. If you do not believe that, fine. Just do yourself a favor and watch the video before you continue to make yourself look stupid.

That said, the RX-8 is a fine car. I would take one over my VR6 any day. I feel the 350Z is a better deal in performance, if not the practicality, area.

To the ass ZoomZoom and more civil Blasphemous, enjoy your 7s and future 8s.
Old Aug 10, 2003 | 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by VR6 Vdub
Wow, I've been put in my place. I am so humbled. Your attitude in your first and second posts would seem to show that you are indeed an asshole, provoked or not.
how the heck am i an asshole? I don't think i've even called you a name, you're the one keep calling people asshole

All I did is give my opinion, backed up by facts. Gonna address this one last time, then I will not be replying the this thread again. Like I said before, you seem to enjoy arguing for the sake of it. I, however, do not. So feel free to knock yourself out and consider this a win, if you so wish.
I bet you'll be reading this thread even after you unsubscribe, so I'm replying anyway

1) No, the price is for a 2003 model, not the 2004. A NEW (NOT USED) 2003 model. You seem to spend a lot of time at dealerships, so I will assume you know what I am referring to.
end-of-model year discounts sure is a good way to find a bargain!

2) Just because I do not go to Mazda dealerships does that mean I will never own a used RX-7? I think not. My tastes just do not include new Miatas and RX-8s. When the future RX-7 is here, then I may pay one a visit.
meh, ok then

3) "so die" I guess the sarcasm did not make it through your computer screen. Stick your tounge out and try to say it. That's how I read your original use of that statement.
i thought my "nah, life is good" reply sort of echoed your sarcasm, and my sarcasm in my original post?

4) Yaw inertia is irrelevent. The Z handles better. If you do not believe that, fine. Just do yourself a favor and watch the video before you continue to make yourself look stupid.
I did watch that video, and yes the Z is faster, I never doubted that. But saying yaw inertia is irrelevant is ignorant. Any car with sporting aspirations in mind must take into consideration laws of physics, and yaw inertia is a very important one that affects the transitional stability/agility of a vehicle.

That said, the RX-8 is a fine car. I would take one over my VR6 any day. I feel the 350Z is a better deal in performance, if not the practicality, area.
i need the rear seats if i get the RX-8 as a daily driver, so I'll concur with that.

To the ass ZoomZoom and more civil Blasphemous, enjoy your 7s and future 8s.
see? there you go again, calling people names when i haven't even called you ANYTHING
Old Aug 10, 2003 | 09:07 AM
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RX8 is dope....fuck the 350z i hate that car....would spend my money for the 8
Old Aug 10, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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when time comes down to modding he rx8 will over come the 350z on the tsukuba curcuit. you must realize that....don't you?



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