I don't want to rape the Millennium dyno shootout thread too much so I'll start a new thread here. There seems to be a lot of people out there that think the new S2000 (S2200?) is underrated and makes more hp than the old ones. www.vtec.net did an article on it a while ago and it had the new ones making somewhere around 25-30 additional hp over the old ones. Once again, vtec.net put out a completely bullshit article. They are extremely unreliable. They are also the ones that claimed the S2000 type R was just around the corner. They even claimed to have seen it and had driven this 360 hp beast of a car. Well the dyno charts that they posted don't even look similar to a real MY04 S2000 at all....here's the real deal. This one is a stock 2003 S2000...


and this one is a stock MY04:


The 04 makes just a little bit more hp and a good amout of low end torque. By 4000 rpms my torque equals the 04 and my peak torque is actually higher, just slightly. I'll post pics of my dyno sheet as soon as I can scan it.

 

rightchous

 

Here's mine, just for comparison sake.

My torque is closer to the 04 than the 03 and my peak is actually higher than both.....me so happy

 

it needs better tuning.... alsost looks like vtec kicks in at about 2700 rpms

the power sorta drops at point of vtec kick in? wheres your vtec point?

 

read my other posts. My V-AFC is untuned right now

 

Oh, and thats the start of the pull Tweedle Dee.

 

That cracked me up. I couldn't post I was laughing so hard.

 

It looks to me like that 2.2 is a real winner. HP is better or at least equal across the board. If it could rev to 9K I bet it would tapper off just about the same as the 2.0 does.

 

The thing about the 2.2 is that theyve had to change the gear ratios...for the worse...to compensate for the lower redline. There's no doubt that the 2.2 has a better curve...although not a whole lot better. With just a V-AFC to take fuel out up you the 2.0s will pull all the way to redline without falling off at all. They run very very rich up top. Aside from the very very low RPM torque difference I don't see any reason to get rid of mine for a new one...mine runs really strong compared to most.

 

a while back i read the specs on the new 04, and they do make a bit more torque, they only red line at 8200, the VTEC kicks in a bit sooner meaning an increase in low end torque, and from the article i read it claims that peak hp and torque numbers come slightly quicker, and that the 1/4 mile time is now 13.86. but im no master mechanic or honda guru. so if i can see that the difference is only marginal, anyone should be able to. and VTECnology here found some good hard evidence, that clears up a bit of the questions i had based on the basic numbers in the article i read. overall i think it was a good idea to up the low end torque, but if i were you, VTECnology, i'd feel the same way about not seeing any point in dumping yours for a new one.