Autoblog first drive: Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Grand Sport
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from what i have seen, for example:
my old supercharger honda, did not build any boost under normal driving conditions unless rev'd higher than normal (3500 rpm)
and a good friend of mine owns a 03 cobra it does not see any higher compression in the cylinders (i.e boost) until it is rev'd higher than normal driving conditions. ( i rode with him the first time and asked him if the boost gauge worked...... he replied yes, and showed me it took some kind of acceleration to build boost)
if anything supercharged motors are more stessed just from having belt driven options...... not the boost it could potentially never see.....
my old supercharger honda, did not build any boost under normal driving conditions unless rev'd higher than normal (3500 rpm)
and a good friend of mine owns a 03 cobra it does not see any higher compression in the cylinders (i.e boost) until it is rev'd higher than normal driving conditions. ( i rode with him the first time and asked him if the boost gauge worked...... he replied yes, and showed me it took some kind of acceleration to build boost)
if anything supercharged motors are more stessed just from having belt driven options...... not the boost it could potentially never see.....
The Bug can be beat on and still last, and it has usable (read: HUGE) amounts of torque from something like 2200 RPM all the way up to 5500...so you really don't need to beat the piss out of the engine to be fast as shit.
Same can't be said about the CCX...and let's face it, owners of both cars WILL be driving the cars hard unless they sit in collections to never be driven again.
On the RPM note...the CCX is also more highly stressed due to its higher bore and stroke in relation to RPM. It's got a significantly bigger bore and stroke than the Veyron does, and yet it redlines at 7600+ RPM.
The Bugatti hits the red at 6500. That 1100 RPM makes a HUGE difference in longevity.
Any car making 170+hp per liter, like the CCX is, really isn't going to be lasting all that long. Granted, it is built to take the abuse, but physics has its limits. The Veyron's W16 engine, at 125hp/liter falls right in with turbocharged engines in commuter cars like the EVO and Audi S4, which do quite well in the higher mileage department.
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The argument that it's stupid to spend that kind of money on it when you can get a CCX for less is stupid.
For the people buying a Veyron, $2mil isn't much. They can afford the Veyron, and a fleet of CCXs if they want.
It's like buying a 700hp Mercedes luxury car (or SUV). Yes, it's completely pointless. But it's cool. And if you can afford to spend a couple million on something just because it's cool..... then why not do it?
For the people buying a Veyron, $2mil isn't much. They can afford the Veyron, and a fleet of CCXs if they want.
It's like buying a 700hp Mercedes luxury car (or SUV). Yes, it's completely pointless. But it's cool. And if you can afford to spend a couple million on something just because it's cool..... then why not do it?
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Re: Autoblog first drive: Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Grand Sport
But it still sucks. You cant say a downfall and then back it up with BUT ITS A SUPERCAR an make everything better. The mclaren has good visibility, and its a 17 year old SUPERCAR. I just really really really hate how the bugatti looks.
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I don't feel like reading all the comments, but isn't VW loosing money making these things? I know there's a 2.2 mill price tag on em, but I heard something like it takes a mill or two more to actually produce one?
Personally I would love to drive it, but I'd never pay that much for any car. Can you imagine trying to park this at Foodlion?
"That truck is too close to the line *pull foward*, that Civic already has a dent in the door *pull forward*, **/facepalm** FUCKING SHOPPING CARTS?...screw it I don't need to eat."
Side note though, I guess when your rich enough to actually think about buying one...then really your just bored cuz you HAVE so much money and there's really not much else you can do with that much money right?
Personally I would love to drive it, but I'd never pay that much for any car. Can you imagine trying to park this at Foodlion?
"That truck is too close to the line *pull foward*, that Civic already has a dent in the door *pull forward*, **/facepalm** FUCKING SHOPPING CARTS?...screw it I don't need to eat."
Side note though, I guess when your rich enough to actually think about buying one...then really your just bored cuz you HAVE so much money and there's really not much else you can do with that much money right?
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LOL @ rich people buying their own groceries.
LOL @ comparing a stock Veyron to highly modded vehicles.
LOL @ nutriding when most people here are merely giving respect where it's due. Interestingly enough, the letters CCX comes out of your mouth enough that calling others nutriders is a bit hypocritical.
you mad nagbro?
LOL @ comparing a stock Veyron to highly modded vehicles.
LOL @ nutriding when most people here are merely giving respect where it's due. Interestingly enough, the letters CCX comes out of your mouth enough that calling others nutriders is a bit hypocritical.
you mad nagbro?
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Looks are debatable. I don't understand how anyone could possibly say the car sucks. It does what it was built to do AMAZINGLY well, and it's not so ridiculous that you simply can't use it on public roads comfortably, unlike many other cars in the genre. That ISN'T debatable, it's the troof.
I don't see how that sucks.
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I think they all have cameras now a days But seriously if I had 2 million burning a hole in my pocket the F1, S7, Ferrari's would come first ahead of the Bugatti.
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People that buy the Veyron don't just have 2M burning their pockets, they have way more than that. They also probably already have an F1 and/or S7 and they want something even more satisfying.