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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by sucka306
honestly i feel that turbo is very trendy. everyone who has a honda motor has the option to put in a kit for under 2500 and be in the high 13s low 14s. this doesn't really involve much effort. the most effort is finding all the parts and running the piping. everything else is fairly simple and bolts on.
With an NA application, you have to do more research to get results people dont see often.
Turbo spplication, if done right, takes more thinking than N/A. You have cam, timing, valve, ehaust, intake, air pressure, fuel pressure, injector volumn, compression.. and list keeps going. Changing a N/A engine to F.I. is MUCH more complicated. The biggest thing to worry about is detonation.. F.I. applications have an advantage that N/A can't come close to, and thats the adjustable volumn of air and fuel in the motor, the more of both and the easier the motor breathes the better it will perform.
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by yeer
NA, everyone is boost
Not to start an argument, but I don't see too many boosted cars on the street.
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SignfcntOthr
Not to start an argument, but I don't see too many boosted cars on the street.
what SHOULD have been said was.. all the FAST cars are boosting... obviously, because all motor just cant hang
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SignfcntOthr
Not to start an argument, but I don't see too many boosted cars on the street.
ok name some hardcore all motor guys running the street then. and i aint talking about a car that just got 2 bolt-ons. im talking about internals and mild cams, big time header. there isnt many. do u want me to list the number of boosted cars in the area??

as u can see it takes alot more for a car to reach 200-220whp going NA. considering that i used to be JRSC boosted last year. boost is always going to be faster, skys the limited on boosted cars.
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by six out 6
Turbo spplication, if done right, takes more thinking than N/A. You have cam, timing, valve, ehaust, intake, air pressure, fuel pressure, injector volumn, compression.. and list keeps going. Changing a N/A engine to F.I. is MUCH more complicated. The biggest thing to worry about is detonation.. F.I. applications have an advantage that N/A can't come close to, and thats the adjustable volumn of air and fuel in the motor, the more of both and the easier the motor breathes the better it will perform.

it takes just as much thinking bro......
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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yeer, what setup you using..im most likey goin all motor in my R as well..im lookin to get 195-200whp using stock cams.
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 07:47 AM
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"all motor" is retarded. more power is always better. it shouldn't even be a question.
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by yeer
it takes just as much thinking bro......
I honestly wouldn't know about it. I just know turbo application is such a fucking headache. My car is probably the worst stock turbo, the head, turbo, exhaust, and intake is all so constricting. The only way to get any decent hp gains is to apply all new parts. So, for anything around 350-500hp it would cost 5-6k at the least. My car is so bottled up it isn't funny.
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 07:52 AM
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running jdm p30 pistons on stock itr rods and spoon headgasket on a fresh rebuild, compression is around 11:6:1

stock cams with skunk2 gears, dtr fab header with testpipe, J's Racing intake, and a few other small things like FPR, etc. hondata tuned by steve sakai of SGT.

at the time on the dyno at HP Works in colonial heights, VA.....the car ran no exhaust. we knew the stock ITR exhaust would be really restrictive with a big header like that so i dropped it to make to most power but it put back on to actually do the tuning, ive lost about 6-7whp with the exhaust on.

ill try to have dyno sheets up soon, i dont have a scanner but i made alot of midrange 20whp in some areas, vtec is set sub 4000RPMs.
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by yeer
ok name some hardcore all motor guys running the street then. and i aint talking about a car that just got 2 bolt-ons. im talking about internals and mild cams, big time header. there isnt many.
I didn't say there were a lot of hardcore all motor guys on the street, either.

Originally Posted by yeer
do u want me to list the number of boosted cars in the area??
No thanks. I know that boosted cars exist, but I thinks it's not accurate to say that:

Originally Posted by yeer
everyone is boost
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as u can see it takes alot more for a car to reach 200-220whp going NA.
I understand that making that kind of power on an all motor four cylinder motor takes quite a bit of effort, and I respect that.

Remember, I started off by saying:

Originally Posted by SignfcntOthr
Not to start an argument
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