You made 386 rwhp in a vette...woopdy fucking doooo.

 

 

I hope you guys dont think an ls1 is not capable of 11's with just boltons. I guess you havent seen Big Bakes car. All an ls1 needs is a converter, drag radials, suspension, exhaust, lid and filter, maybe headers. 1.6-1.7 60ft from a 2.1-2.0 (what stock suspension ls1's usually do on street tires). Thats .5 tenths right there.. stock ls1's run 13.5-13.3. take .5 x 1.5 and that gives you 7.5 tenths in the 1/4 just with good suspension and some sticky tires. take a car running 13.3 - .75.. what do you get. oh my.. 12.55 1/4 with just tires, suspension, torque converter.. add headers.. full exuast.. gears.. well you can see where im going. It is verry possable.

 

VERY possible even without suspension work.

I was running 12.40's backin 98 in my 98 WS6 formula with free mods, a lid, little ass Hoosier QTP's 26x8.5x16 tires , Mac headers , a used blow master cat back I got from Joe Overton and a crappy little yank 3000 converter.

Keith was running 12.2x in his 98 SS with basically the same combo as me but he had a Vig converter.

This was back in 98.

With todays converters and some LT's and a good exhaust system no reason that those cars wouldn't have gone 12.0x-11.9x

 

larry01z28



nuff said

 

Jason300zxTT < Joe Overton

 

Siiigh, I had a nice big post made up that politely explained everything. Unfortunately the damn thing got lost when the site said I didn't login, then expired my session. yay.

Anyway, here's my sock engine, bolt-on only, 3650 race weight, -2000 DA, 11.85 @ 113.5 timeslip http://www.bluefirehawk.com/images/newbest11s.gif

Don't believe a internally stock ls1 can't go 11s, think again. I know stock-internal ls1's who go mid 11's with lots of weight reduction. I know of stock weight (3600+), cam-only ls1 cars going mid 11's as well.

As for crystl's car, it's definately not my style and all that extra "ricer" crap takes away probably .3 in the E/T. As for the 11.3 claim, I don't think he's taken it to the track since the cam install so it's a bench-racing number. I'm guessing once he get's ALL the other bolt-ons for his car, some stickies, and some practice, he can go consistant 11.7's.

Bye,

Rob

 

Oh yeah and regarding the Red LT1 with the "rediculous suspension" (hahahaha) from what I've heard he broke his torque arm on that pass. I've seen his car in person racing, and both wheels come up. That's why he's in the 9's.

 

Sorry but your wrong again, besides the fact I have been driving since before you were wiping your own ass.

Blah blah blah... blah fucktard blah... no one said anything to this effect...

Wrong again buckwheat, 3 V8 options in 2002 for the camaro, 1 was Z28 @ 310 HP (The V8 I referred to in my first post) which I would definetly consider 10HP a hair over 300, then the SS @ 325 and SS with a 335HP H.O. Package. This is as per GM's website, and the 260 from the Mustang GT is off of fords site for the 04' GT's

Wrong again, see above. (Do you like TOTALLY suck at the internet or what?)

Yes it will and I can say this from experience because I have done it, not off the line as preludes don't have much on the bottom end for torque (Biggest complaint of all luders) but from a dig I have taken a few, wether or not the driver was worth a shit I don't know and don't care because the bottom line was they lost I never said I blew the doors off of one but for a "GT" to lose to ANY 4 cyl is pretty amusing especially because of the reaction (like this) that you guys give whenever you hear it... and BTW I never said preludes were fast or quick, I actually said they were "relatively slow IMO" you should attend that english class you got assigned in high school maybe by the time you get your diploma you will be able to read complete statements.

I will preface what I am about to say with this for all the domestic guys out there who are about to start flaming, I grew up on old GM Muscle, I learned to drive on a 71 Nova with a 396 and M21 out of a 67' SS (which is actually one of my dream cars to restore) with that being said... Your "detuned" is not detuned it's called emissions restrictions in the breathing of your V8 this happened long before you were even the potential stain on your mothers panties. Thats why in the 70-72 Chevelles the LS 6 (454ci/450HP) option package was not hard for GM to produce and it was labeled as 450HP because in excess of 500 would require aditional safety equipment as per the NHTSA (i.e. rollcage/bar) however later on as soon as they started with cats egr equipment etc etc on a amply powered V8 the power numbers started dropping dramatically so in order to make up for it (which has taken quite a while) GM has had to do quite a bit of "TUNING" to regain the power lost through emissions. This was not a sinister plot by the insurance companies to limit your fun. And as always the camaro is rated less than a corvette because it IS less, it ALWAYS has been the poor mans vette. And furthermore not everyone who buys a Z06 modifies it and races it or even races it, the majority of Z06 drivers are more than likely older single men. Not the race car drivers you think they are. Personally I wouldn't waste the 50k on a Z06, there are FAR nicer vehicles to be had for that kind of money, try a BMW for starters, I can get a well equipped M3 for that kind of money.

Overtuned? I doubt it, You were probably one of these clowns who goes out buys a prelude (or any other import) and throws some cheap ass I/H/E etc etc and then expects to have a fnf 10 second car, welcome to the real world 100HP/Liter is pretty good so anything above that will require those mods plus some internals to make better use of them (i.e. cams with longer duration and lift) and some fuel tuning (apexi V-AFC) and you will easily net gains of 20-30HP at the wheels. and thats with stock internals with better cams etc your looking at 50-60HP increase at the wheels. I have seen it done.

Get yourself a diploma and learn something then keep talking trash like another assclown kid who thinks they know everything about cars when you know VERY little and prove it on a regular basis. Oh yeah and maybe you should come out to this thing called auto-x where we have to take turns, and see where your big bad mullet-bird sits...

 

Ironic.
Please stop posting on this subject.
You are making yourself look more foolish with every post.
Step away from the internet site HP quotes and get some real world info.
LS1's dyno anywhere from 290-310 at the wheels.
And if you beat a 99+ GT, you beat someone that hasnt a clue how to drive.
You shouldnt make such broad statements as before, b/c your foot is definetly in your mouth.