The motors are "detuned" due to emissions restrictions - No shit.
They're also "detuned" so as not to "compete" with the Vette - No shit.
They're also "detuned" because they're "pony" cars, and I think getting 400-500hp for $25k is a bit lofty. Fbodies and GT's fill a certain niche, and they do it very well.

My, because a website says it, it must be 100% true. Hey, genius, there's a thing called being underrated. EVERYONE knows that LS1's easily do 315 at the WHEELS.

You really thing beating a GT is impressive? It really isn't.

I've known a handful of guys with Z06s, all have raced them. I have known roughly the same amount of C5 guys, where only a couple would push the gas.

The z06 is meant to be raced, I'm sure most old men who aren't interested in that at all, and just want to own a Corvette would stick to the much cheaper C5.

I threw "cheap" parts on my Prelude - right, because there are SO many aftermarket companies that SELL parts for Preludes, let me tell you. No, I had an Injen intake, DC Ceramic header, some other things I can't even remember, and a Venom VCN1000 kit.

It ran 13.8 the first time I took it to the track.

So you're saying you've seen an H22a Prelude make 300hp AT THE WHEELS, with tuning, and cams? ROFL. You're an idiot.

You can get an M3 for 50k over a Z06 - Who cares? You'd be the idiot.

You sound like the typical anti-domestic ricer. And you've supposedly been driving before I was born, yet you're rolling in a Prelude - cool, my dream is to be 35+ and still be driving a FWD Honda.

 

exactly what I was thinking. This guy has no clue. He said something to the effect of preludes having little low end torque, but I'd say that they have the most torque of all DOHC honda engines.

 

I'm gonna hijack Ali's Mustang and GodsOther and I are going to run. I'll report back ASAP.

That hurt. Right here: <3. Stop twisting the knife you bastard!

 

look.. this shit anit worth my time... all you guys do is bitch and try to talk shit... the camaro has 18" wheels on NORMAL daily driven tires... NOT slicks NOT drag radials... no way in hell this car is goin 11's on NORMAL street tires "NOT MT ET STREETS" this is ur basic camaro with MINOR mods... vs a Turbo Integra GSR fully built!!! that has trap speeds over over 117 in the qr mile wile spinnin first in second and most of third gear. YOU GUYS HAVE NO FUCKEN CLUE what is done to the integ so quit wasten ur time sayen v8's are sooo fucken fast... yes they can be but so can everything else.... all im gonna say is this... fully built boosted/sprayed motors are not to messed with espcially when there tuned and run crazy as hell!!!

 

this thread is DONE, if you THINK you car is fast... or wanna see the camaro and integ race... come to the track sunday or when we set it up with the camaro

 

So if a Corvette can achieve nice gains from minimal mods, why can't a Camaro do the same thing?

BTW: This thread is done when I say it's done.

 

camaro dosent have half the shit the vette has, plus... the gears are differnt automatics i belive come with a gear lower then 342's my dad just put 373's in his vete and sold his stock 342 gears to a automatic camaro because of the gear being so low. Camaro's have the same bottom end but as for the other parts intake manifold, ecu, tuning, and misc other things it dosent have from factory the benefits the vette has. Now if he switched over to z06 parts i could see some power... but... my buddy who has a SS camaro has , intake,exhaust,chip,headers,no cats,under drive pullies,slp heads with, valve springs, porterd head, pistons,rods, 373 gears and drag radials... his car is fast. espically when he srays his 2 stage nitrous kit.... but with out nitrous my buddies integ rolls on him... so... a z28 with intake,exhuast,chip,headers, to me has no chance.

 

Ok the motors are not "detuned" as you call it they are simply that restricted because of emissions, I guess this reading thing is a little tricky for you, and I am definetly not repeating myself so go back and read...

Whatever you consider what "everyone" knows is irrelevant because I am basing my statements off of the company that produces the products website, this I would consider a reliable source, furthermore it's not hard to produce 315 at the wheels and they do NOT specify where the measurement of HP is taken and neither did I! pull your head out of your ass.

Nope and I never stated that I did, I just said that for ANY 4.6L or V8 for that matter I would expect a lot more juice than the mustang provides.


Exactly not everyone who buys a vette races it, a good amout get one for show not for go and you just proved my point.

It's a status symbol just like any other american car of that variety, parallel example, guys who buy pickups and put HUGE tires and suspension, do they all go off roading? don't count on it!

I threw "cheap" parts on my Prelude

well lets see...

- right, because there are SO many aftermarket companies that SELL parts for Preludes, let me tell you.

There are, you just have to have enough of a clue to look for them in the right places.


No, I had an Injen intake,

Ok good start.

DC Ceramic header,

GARBAGE

some other things I can't even remember, and a Venom VCN1000 kit.

Not a bad kit but WAY overpriced,

It ran 13.8 the first time I took it to the track.

N/A? in a 5th Gen? I am definetly calling bullshit on that, I know guys that run 13.8-13.6's with 9psi of JRSC boost. so unless you are talking about a 4th gen VTEC or highly modded Si your full of it.

263 N/A AT the wheels Mugen Header/Exhaust Crower Stage2's with skunk2 flat valves and Type-S pistons in stock sleeves etc etc I could list the build but I never said I had seen a lude put down 300 at the wheels ALL MOTOR but it's pretty easy with about 6-8 psi


You can get an M3 for 50k over a Z06 - Who cares? You'd be the idiot.

No I would be driving the nicer car, who's the idiot?

Stated earlier but I realize that the reading thing is tough on you so I will state it again, I was and still am an old school muscle car lover at heart but for the money I don't know how many cars handle as well or have the amount of power mine does out fo the box. other than the Hype-R's but I am not a fan of teg's

 

What the hell is your definition of detuned? Selling a car with huge thick headers, heads that are completely crappy, and an tiny exhaust, all for the sake of emissions regulations AND to be more quiet for the customers that don't want some horribly loud beast, AND so as not to compete head to head with the same Manufacturers "supercar", is detuned.

You seem to think I'm talking about throwing the car on the dyno and actually tuning it, I'm not.

1992 Si, ran 13.8 on my 17" 25+lb rims, full air, FULL dvd/plexiglass/tv soundsystem.

And believe me, I owned this car and had all my modifications done to it LONG before the Prelude aftermarket became popular, and 260whp is a far cry from 300.

You said that an h22a can gain 20-30hp from just an AFC tune, then another 40-60 (around there) for throwing in a cam and internals. That's 300.

PS: You have noticed everyones disagreeing with you, have you not? Maybe you should take that into consideration next time you post with incorrect information.

 

Sorry buddy your cars of choice have ALWAYS come with Manifolds NOT headers (one is cast and the other is tube learn the difference) this is not something they ADDDED for emissions, And the weight has nothing to do with the gains of a header! Once again a camaro will NEVER compete with a corvette, it is the poor mans version, just look at the suspension differences! they will never be in the same league!

if thats what I was talking about I would have said so.

Timeslip? calling BS on this still especially because... 25+lb rims thats pretty damn heavy, most 17's or 16's can be sub 20lb for not much, shit the stock 16's on the 5th gens are 22 lbs! and that air suspension costs plenty as far as weight plus that home theatre... 13.8 not likely

I never claimed any N/A lude that I knew of did 300whp in the first place so it doesn't matter

So you can add but you still can't read! 20-30 from an AFC tune, 40-60 for internals etc etc including tuning them! so the grand total is 60!!! so add the stock 160-170whp of a prelude to the 60whp of some aftermarket goodies and we have 220!!! WOW try again!

Wow you call 2 domestic enthusiasts and someone who drives a Hyundai accent your "everyone" and claimed panel of experts? and what information have I posted that is incorrect? I guess the different V8 options argument got owned by me as did the GT hp statement pretty much everything I have said originally I have backed up with fact and thus why this argument has diminished to you whining like another little mommas boy... got a quarter cause it's lookin like game over champ, play again sometime