Originally Posted by Flite

Your 1.8t put down 180hp and 190 ft/lb stock??? That sounds a little steep unless you got some kind of factory freak. Thats the same numbers that VW lists for the stock crankshaft hp isn't it. Having driven both of them the VR6 definantly felt faster stock for stock. Now granted if your goals are 200ish whp then yes the 1.8t will get there cheaper than the VR6 but thats not where my goals are. to put down over 300 is going to cost a pretty penny with either engine. Also, like I said my intentions were to buy a 1.8t but they didn't have one for sale in Hawaii. I got my VR6 for within a few hundred dollars of the price of a 1.8t. Don't think that I'm knocking the 1.8 at all ( I have one in my Audi A4) it's a great motor. I just think that it's going to cost the same to do what I want out of either car and the VR6 is a little funner to drive stock for stock than the 1.8t would be. Again, like I said, it really depends on what your goals are for the car. The 1.8t is easy to make 200 whp out of and that alone will make a seriously fun car. The VR6 isn't as easy to make that hp out of. But if your goals are higher than that and your plans include an aftermarket turbo kit for either engine....you might as well go VR6. In my opinion

Originally Posted by Flite

Well then you should be ultra happy because you really got some kind of factory freak. 180hp stock is awesome. I believe it's possible though I guess, My S2000 consistantly made 10-15 more rwhp than other S2000s stock for stock.

Originally Posted by greygti

I sometimes wonder if it has anything to do with the engines break in, or the engines milage at time of dyno. I think I dynoed it at about 12-15k miles. Are you headed back this way anytime in the future?

Originally Posted by greygti

Also, I feel that the turbo upgrade for the 1.8t is much easier than putting a turbo kit on a VR6. you can do it for about $3k on a 1.8t.

Both are great engines anyways.

Originally Posted by 1.8T3t04e

i disagree...
i would much rather turbo a VR... the manifold is way easier to bolt up lol
i mean the hardest part is the oil return... the rest is all bolt on and some hacking of the bumper to fit the fmic.

Originally Posted by greygti

yes sir, thats what I put down stock...(can't remember if I had the samco inlet at that point actually, but its only a 5hp mod MAX) I also ran a 14.87 with it stock (had rear seat out). I feel that my 1.8t is just as fast and fun to drive as any vr6 (both essentially stock, of course).

Also, I feel that the turbo upgrade for the 1.8t is much easier than putting a turbo kit on a VR6. you can do it for about $3k on a 1.8t.

Both are great engines anyways.

Originally Posted by LoWPRoFiLE

I'm not a big fan of VWs but a lot of people got the Golf's on here, mostly GTIs. So I was wondering which is better, the 1.8T motor or the VR6, and I am talking brand new engines here, not the older lower-output versions. This new R-32 has a medium sized V6 with a VR6 that puts out a decent amount of power for it's size, but the 1.8T can be tuned better.

What's better? All aspects