TSCC Autocross at ACU-4 on October 18th, 2009
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Re: TSCC Autocross at ACU-4 on October 18th, 2009
lol that is perfect!!!!!!!!!!!
on a side note, i have been running with 1/8 tank of fuel, should i try to run it with 1/2 or a full tank? i dont know if it would help my push by changing my front to rear weight %
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Re: TSCC Autocross at ACU-4 on October 18th, 2009
It's counter-intuitive, but some cars are faster with full tanks than empty. If you've got more power than rear-wheel grip, and your car has a strong tendency to understeer, a full tank will put more force on the rear tires and increase straight-line acceleration, and help balance out the understeer with more oversteer in corners. However, it is additional weight to lug around, and the rear tires will break loose at lower gee-forces and make oversteer problems worse, so it's definitely a tradeoff. If you have enough hp/brakes to overcome the weight (You know, like if you've got a massive engine and street tires), and have too much understeer during cornering, a full tank might be desirable.
Actually... Mills, you reading this? What fuel load do you usually race with?
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Re: TSCC Autocross at ACU-4 on October 18th, 2009
i played with the weights when i ran go carts, believe me, i spent a many of hours on the scales but now that i am dealing with suspension, its a bit different. i was thinking the same about the 1/2 tank. generally speaking, the car will understeer then go into oversteer. i am thinking that the suspension i have needs more rear weight. i think mills runs with a full tank. why would the rear tires brake l
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Weight transfers forward during braking lightens the load on the rear tires. More weight in the back will increase the effectiveness of the rear brakes and lets you brake later and harder. Look at the racing lines 911s drive when entering turns, for instance.
It's still a compromise, though, as it's extra mass to brake, and extra inertia the rear tires have to counter during cornering.
It's still a compromise, though, as it's extra mass to brake, and extra inertia the rear tires have to counter during cornering.
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Re: TSCC Autocross at ACU-4 on October 18th, 2009
Yeah Steve, I'm reading it. I tried a few things early on to determine what works best for me. I always top the tank as full as I can get it either at Pungo or on the base. On street tires and an empty tank, the car is almost undriveable. believe it or not, it's more balanced with a passenger too. My tank is right behind the rear axle pretty low on the car. If I could get away with my passeger in the right rear seat I'd do that too! I missed the corner weighting session, but I'm guessing I'm probally 56/44 front/rear if that. The only thing heavy in the back of the car is the axle and rear glass!
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Re: TSCC Autocross at ACU-4 on October 18th, 2009
Cold is good, gives those of us on street tires a fighting chance against everyone on cold r-comps
Looking at the radar, I think the rain just might hold off, though! At least shouldn't be anything heavy.
Looking at the radar, I think the rain just might hold off, though! At least shouldn't be anything heavy.