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00si 11-18-2008 04:31 PM

trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 
recently on my si where the lower control arm meets the trailing arm snapped and i couldnt get the bolt out of the control arm so i replaced it along with the trailing arm that i purchased and now i have it all back together and its not lining up right when i put my wheel back on it is rubbing on the spring and the toe is out to the left i tried to adjust it at the tip of the trailling arm but no luck please help

Excel Auto 11-18-2008 06:30 PM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 
the rear suspension shouldn't have an adjustment from the factory, did you replace it with new parts? are you sure you got the right parts?

B-Well 11-18-2008 06:30 PM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 

Originally Posted by gi_s00l (Post 4717407)
the rear suspension shouldn't have an adjustment from the factory, did you replace it with new parts? are you sure you got the right parts?

You're right, it is not adjustable.

Did it snap while the vehicle was in motion? Any parts bent? Everything installed correctly?

I'll stop by if you're close to VB.

00si 11-18-2008 06:39 PM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 
yes it did snap and the control arm fell to the inside of my rim i was told there was an adjustment for alignment as far as i know there is nothing bent

00si 11-21-2008 06:28 PM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 
i need some help i was told that the compensator arm can adjust the toe but what can adjust the camber w/o aftermarket parts

92gsrteg 11-22-2008 04:01 PM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 
i work at a tire and alignment shop and i can tell you that there is adjustment for toe in the rear on a 96 -00 civic, and pretty much any other honda for that matter, but there is no adjustment for camber unless you get an aftermarket kit. i just put a kit from ingvalls alignment products on the rear off a 2000 honda civic like a week or two ago.

B-Well 11-23-2008 10:25 AM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 

Originally Posted by 92gsrteg (Post 4730611)
i work at a tire and alignment shop and i can tell you that there is adjustment for toe in the rear on a 96 -00 civic, and pretty much any other honda for that matter, but there is no adjustment for camber unless you get an aftermarket kit. i just put a kit from ingvalls alignment products on the rear off a 2000 honda civic like a week or two ago.

please explain your process for alligning toe

also it's ingalls and to the OP, PLEASE choose another manufacturer than ingalls pos.

and you can allign camber with longer bolts and washers.
start with 4 grade 10.9 (must use at lease grade 8) bolts. 10mm x 1.25. 45mm long and depending on how much camber correction you need you may need to get slightly longer ones. then use 3/8 grade 8 washers (# depends on the amount of correction) 45mm long bolts are safe up to 4 washers per side. oem honda is safe for one washer.

92gsrteg 11-23-2008 01:53 PM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 

Originally Posted by B-Well (Post 4732010)
please explain your process for alligning toe

also it's ingalls and to the OP, PLEASE choose another manufacturer than ingalls pos.

and you can allign camber with longer bolts and washers.
start with 4 grade 10.9 (must use at lease grade 8) bolts. 10mm x 1.25. 45mm long and depending on how much camber correction you need you may need to get slightly longer ones. then use 3/8 grade 8 washers (# depends on the amount of correction) 45mm long bolts are safe up to 4 washers per side. oem honda is safe for one washer.

first im sorry if i mispelled sumthin i dont use much, and i was in a hurry. as for alignin rear toe, go jack up the back end of your honda and look underneath. where the lower control arm bolts to the underbody of the car there is a cam bolt for adjustment. when i go to work tomorrow i will raise my teg up and take a picture of that bolt just to post it. as for me using ingalls, it wasnt my car or a perfomance car. just a bone stock automatic 4 door 2000 civic and the guy just wanted his camber fixed and that was what we could get the fastest.

B-Well 11-23-2008 02:20 PM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 

Originally Posted by 92gsrteg (Post 4732591)
first im sorry if i mispelled sumthin i dont use much, and i was in a hurry. as for alignin rear toe, go jack up the back end of your honda and look underneath. where the lower control arm bolts to the underbody of the car there is a cam bolt for adjustment. when i go to work tomorrow i will raise my teg up and take a picture of that bolt just to post it. as for me using ingalls, it wasnt my car or a perfomance car. just a bone stock automatic 4 door 2000 civic and the guy just wanted his camber fixed and that was what we could get the fastest.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9...s020b29cf5.png

Spelling correction is a habbit, not hate ;)

>>#17 is a 10x1.25 bolt no cam bolts here. must be an aftermarket unit in your vehicle. there is a reason that complaies manufacture toe adjusting compensator arms<<<

After re-reading I realized what was really said. The LCA to subframe bolts (#19) are DEFINATELY not cam bolts. ther are weld nuts in the back of the subframe for these to thread into. If they were cam bolts you would have to leave the bolts loose to get you desired setting. The bolts are 10x1.25 also. these perticular pieces are 70mm long

92gsrteg 11-24-2008 12:43 PM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 
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Originally Posted by B-Well (Post 4732669)
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9...s020b29cf5.png

Spelling correction is a habbit, not hate ;)

>>#17 is a 10x1.25 bolt no cam bolts here. must be an aftermarket unit in your vehicle. there is a reason that complaies manufacture toe adjusting compensator arms<<<

After re-reading I realized what was really said. The LCA to subframe bolts (#19) are DEFINATELY not cam bolts. ther are weld nuts in the back of the subframe for these to thread into. If they were cam bolts you would have to leave the bolts loose to get you desired setting. The bolts are 10x1.25 also. these perticular pieces are 70mm long

ok your rite i was wrong, #19 is not a cam bolt. (i work on so many different cars i lose track) neither is #17, however, where number 17 bolts to the frame is slotted to allow for adjustment of toe (refer to attached image) im not trying to be an ass but i do alignments on hondas and acuras at least once a week and i know u can adjust toe on the rear. if thats not enough i can also post pictures of my integra where you can make the adjustments. as for the toe compensation arm labled in the pic, that is a factory unit. There is no adjustment on the arm itself, just where it bolts to the car.

92gsrteg 11-24-2008 01:04 PM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/o.../alignment.jpg

00si 11-26-2008 06:12 PM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 
is it true that a trailing arm from an integra is the same as the si trailing arm

00si 12-06-2008 07:45 PM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 
what is the difference in a integra lower control arm and a civic si lower control arm

Fabrik8 12-06-2008 09:41 PM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 
I was going to ask if you got an LCA that you knew was compatible.

I keep thinking there is some length difference between the Civ and Teg LCA or something related. I think I remember something about doing a Teg disc brake swap on a Civic and the Teg trailing arms are a drop in replacement but you must use the Civic LCAs because they are a different length (I think the Teg LCAs are longer?). That would certainly explain the problem you're having though.

Someone will have to verify that, I can't remember. I could be completely wrong about that. It's been known to happen occasionally. ;)

Looks like you may have to get that bolt out after all..

SlowLS 12-07-2008 04:33 AM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 
I work at Honda and have done many alignments on civic. I have not seen and Honda or any car for that matter that you could not adjust the toe in the rear. 92 GSRteg is right. You loosen #17 and use a pry bar. If you are trying to adjust your toe in your driveway by eyeball, and not on an alignment machine, you will not even get it close.

00si 12-07-2008 08:29 AM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 
the lower arm i have gotten is for a 2000 civic si everything lined up bolt wise but the toe is really bad

Jarrod 12-07-2008 10:37 AM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 
Get. A. Alignment.

Problem solved.

Fabrik8 12-07-2008 02:09 PM

Re: trailing arm problem on 2000 civic si
 

Originally Posted by 00si (Post 4773467)
the lower arm i have gotten is for a 2000 civic si everything lined up bolt wise but the toe is really bad

If the toe is that bad, I still think you probably have a problem. Usually the stock toe adjustments aren't great enough that you can look at the wheel at the ends of the toe adjustment range and say "holy shit, that's way off"..


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