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EFOwNzALL 12-16-2008 07:55 AM

new to nissan...veterans help!
 
im taking my buddies 89 240sx off his hands, its decntly clean, no rust, has a small fuel problem where it seems to be sputtering at heavy throttle but driveable, its extremely weak and ide love to swap it, ive recently only dealt with swapping b,d series honda motors:D

i guess what im asking for is a little lecture on the 240s as far as swapping them or a site where that can be found

p.s. would it be retarded to repair the KA and boost it? i heard they can make good power

any help is appreciated


thanks

WishIHadaSilvia 12-16-2008 09:00 AM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
The swaps are pretty straight forward....requiring only minimal wiring or no wiring if you want to pay someone and they'll send you a prewired harness.

KA-T is fun, I had one in my old car. Building a KA will require ~1000-1500 in parts alone + paying someone to do it properly. However once that is done you've got a long block that can handle lots of boost. With a GT30 or small trim T3/T4 you can have a lot of fun with a KA-T and make more torque and have a completely different power band then a SR20.


Read as much as you can before you jump into anything. Zilvia.net is a site you should check out - you can search and read on there for days on end. There's also NICO forums and KA and SR specific sites.


I guess the biggest thing is what do you want with this car? Something equivlant to a 180-200whp DC2 integra or EG/EK civic just to have a fun little street car? Crazy drag car? Road race? Drift? Answering that can get you some more specific answers.

va240dude 12-16-2008 09:27 AM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
^+ rep, what he said

shaban 12-16-2008 09:27 AM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
www.s-chassis.com
www.nicoclub.com
www.zilvia.net
www.ka-t.org

all good sites.

EFOwNzALL 12-16-2008 09:44 AM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
i want it to have a little power, i de love to boost it, but if i have to build the stock motor to boost it ide rather swap it and eventually boost it, i pretty much just want to b able to get it sidewayz easily and for it to be somewhat quick

WishIHadaSilvia 12-16-2008 11:08 AM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
Well if that's all you want you could rebuild the KA with OEM everything but ARP head studs and some forged pistons. You can safely make 250-280whp that way...which is more then you need coming from a honda.

That or get a stock SR swap....stock as in SMIC and everything. You can run a 3" elbow/down pipe/exhaust and a intake but you don't need more then that. You can run the stock 10-11psi and make ~200-220whp and have a fun car with more then enough power to learn how to slide.

If you actually want to learn how to drive the car research suspension set ups and spend all the money you want to do a motor swap on that first, that and a LSD (+ wheels of course).

After you do that and drive around on a stock motor for a little while you can rebuild for boost or put a stock SR in....otherwise your car will turn into the pile of crap SR swapped 240s running around out there with nothing but a poorly done motor swap done.

My 2 cents, take it or leave it....I recommend listening to me though.


Also, if you end up having hte suspension done up on the car, and have a nice set of wheels and the car looks good overall you'll have an easier time selling it then you would a stock car w/ a SR swap - not saying you'll sell it but it'll make the car stand out from all of the other shit for sale out there.

shaban 12-16-2008 03:16 PM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
Suspension; brakes; then engine.
listen to ^^

S14 12-16-2008 08:17 PM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
Yeah it'll make any addition of power more enjoyable. Good tires too. Oh yeah 5 lug is the way to go if you wand endless wheel choices. There is 4 lug, but not many that are fitting for a 240.

EFOwNzALL 12-16-2008 11:27 PM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
for the time being i figure ill just get the KA running properly just so i can a good feel for what i want to do, but for the most part i just want a fun lil street car, suspension and brakes are def. something im gonna upgrade just because i kno how much more fun it makes any power addition as S14 said......thanks for all the info....any ideas what my problem is as far this sputtering when i ease into the throttle throughout each gear? once im over like 50% throttle accelerating, she sputterss and hesitates, but not 2 bad, but bad enough to be very annoying

thanx

WishIHadaSilvia 12-17-2008 08:20 AM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
Done a tune up recently? Spark plugs, wires, cap/rotor, fuel filter, 02, checked/cleaned MAF, air filter? Also check out all of your sensors on your intake manifold (give them the giggle test - shake the plugs with the car idling and listen for changes) - especially your TPS because if it has to do with the % of throttle you give it that could very well be the problem. Check all of your grounds, and the plugs on your fuel pump - look for corrosion and loose connections.


Download a FSM for the car....it'll basically tell you how to fix anything and everything on the car.

Soundwave. 12-17-2008 08:52 AM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
Like WIHsilvia said up above, if all you wanna do is get sideways then buy yourself a diff. I sugest actually buying one and not getting a welded one but many will argue over that topic right there. Do you have a single cam or twin cam? the KA motors are what are found in the Nissan pickup trucks so they have PLENTY of torque to get you sideways.

va240dude 12-17-2008 08:57 AM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
Yeah my bro's 91 coupe was having the same problem, sputtering at hard acceleration. I used BG's MAF cleaner and cleaned the MAF, replaced spark plugs (they were Bosch crap, Nissans, honda's etc love the NGKs), replaced the distributor cap and rotor, wires, and problem solved. I also bought a fuel filter, and will install it when I have time, although the issue is fixed.

dailydrivEF 12-17-2008 09:01 AM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
as for your prob under high load on your ka i suggest replaceing the fuel filter as a start.. and with the car being a 89 it had the SOHC ka.. which isnt worth modding. If you do decide to rock KA-T get a swap over from a 91-94 DOHC 240. There is always a nice easy s13 sr swap (will need to source a dohc ka p/s setup) good luck.. i still have my 93 s13 coupe (owned for 4years) i rocked SR for about 3 years but know goin V8 since i whiped out my intake cam on my sr

my car
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i4...85/bbqshot.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i4.../enginebay.jpg

EFOwNzALL 12-17-2008 12:55 PM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
thanks alot of my questions have been answered, the giggle test seems smart thanks, so the sohc ka isnt even worth upgrading at all? damn:(, dohc ka cheap? damn dailydrivef v8+s13 sounds monstrous thanks for the input sick whipp

WishIHadaSilvia 12-17-2008 07:08 PM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
Hahaha, I can't believe I wrote GIGGLE. I meant JIGGLE, I was going to laugh at you about it but then I realized I wrote it myself, haha!



DailyDriEF - Are those splitfire coil packs? Did you notice any improvement with them?

S14 12-18-2008 03:25 PM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
O yea lotta 240 guys run nissan 300zx fuel filters (z32 body style..forget years ) and ngk spark plugs. 300zx fuel filters supposedly cheaper..never checked to confirmed though. DEFINITELY bigger. I Just got the filter and ran with em ever since lol. Also replace your pcv valve if you still got the ka24e in there..heard its easier to do on the sohc than the dohc ka24de.

Also this might be helpful
http://www.240sxtech.com/

btw.. diggin ur s13 dailydrivEF

JDM180SX 12-18-2008 03:31 PM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
300zx 90-96 fuel filter. i bought the twin turbo 300zx filter...since im running turbo motor.

S14 12-18-2008 07:50 PM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
is there a diff b/w that and n/a..i always ask for twin turbo 93

JDM180SX 12-18-2008 08:07 PM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
idk, they look like the same size to me.

TheSlimOne 12-18-2008 08:57 PM

Re: new to nissan...veterans help!
 
Same. No difference.


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