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Old 09-13-2009, 05:21 AM
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Update 9/27: i dove the car around the block yesterday after i replaced the lines(again) and everything seemed fine. so i decided to drive the car from my parents house to my gargae about a mile away today. about half way there BOTH front brakes start dragging hard enough to slow the car to a stop every time the clutch is pressed in. you could instantly smell them burning and after we stopped the lugnuts where hot enough to seriously burn you

i will be replacing the prop valve with a used one that i have just because its literally the only thing left...



ok so my 91 civic had a few brake issues that i needed to work out; a leaking booster and master, and the drivers front was dragging the rotor and was very hard to turn by hand.

i decided to just go ahead and overhaul the whole system, seeing as its a 19 year old car. the problem is that even with all of the other issues fixed the left front is still dragging hard.

i have replaced:
brake booster
master cylinder
all hard lines
both front hoses
both front calipers
both front rotors
and pads

i have done more of these jobs than i can remember but i'm stumped. it may be something stupid that im not thinking about... if anybody has an idea please help me out
thanks
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edit: i have tried 3 different new calipers, 3 different sets of pads, and even after checking for warp(none) switched out to a different new rotor just to see... nothing
and it Doesn't drag with out the pads installed

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Old 09-13-2009, 05:26 AM
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are you sure its the pads? it could be a wheel bearing going bad making it appear like the brakes are dragging.
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Old 09-13-2009, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Boost-box
are you sure its the pads? it could be a wheel bearing going bad making it appear like the brakes are dragging.

its not the wheel bearing, there is no play in it. also it not like a bad bearing or warped rotor where it drags at different points in its rotation... it drags all the time, through the full turn.

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Old 09-13-2009, 07:54 AM
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With everything you've listed that you've changed, I'm stumped as well.
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Old 09-13-2009, 10:50 AM
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With everything you've listed that you've changed, I'm stumped as well.
Yeah I know.... Nobody seems to know what it could be
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Old 09-13-2009, 11:30 AM
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Is the upright bent where the caliper attaches?

Oh, and does that car have ABS?
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Old 09-13-2009, 11:31 AM
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Try takin your foot off the brake pedal? lol

On a more serious note it sounds like a caliper issue... More times than not, its the caliper...
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its not the wheel bearing, there is no play in it. also it not like a bad bearing or warped rotor where it drags at different points in its rotation... it drags all the time, through the full turn.
A bad bearing wouldn't have any play in it if it is seizing up.... And it would drag at all times. I'd be willing to put money on it being a bearing issue.
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the tab on the knuckle may be bent where the caliper bracket mounts. is it on one side only?
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Originally Posted by Boost-box
A bad bearing wouldn't have any play in it if it is seizing up.... And it would drag at all times. I'd be willing to put money on it being a bearing issue.
Um... I'll take that bet... It spins completely free without the pads in it.



We've put 3 different new calipers on it just to see if that was the issue... It rubbed the same no matter what
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