Electronic cut-out on motorcycle
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your flat out wrong, its as simple as that, no argueing about it
all you did was name two specific bikes, they made a few more than that over the history of motorcycling and the ZX10R is definetly restricted
as of 2001 no bikes in this country exceed 186 mph... i know for a fact, again you can't argue this, its simply fact, that the hayabusa and gsxr 1000 have electronic top speed limiters, so you can turbo nos whatever all day long and unless you remove that its not going faster than 186 because the engine is going to cut out no matter how much power was pushing the rear wheel at 185 mph, the GSXR 600 and 750 atleast have restrictions that retard the timing in 1st and 2nd gear to lower the torque output, not sure if theres a top speed limiter since they don't go 186mph in stock trim but one very while might still be there, the TL and SV1000's also have this, not sure about the SV650
heres a wikipedia excerpt about the ZX12R "Starting with 2001 models, speed limiters were included to reduce the ZX-12R's top speed to 300 km/h"
and the ZX14 "Top speed is restricted electronically to 300 kilometers per hour (187 mph) according to a gentlemen's agreement between Kawasaki and Suzuki.This limit has been in effect on both Kawasaki and Suzuki hyper sport motorcycles since 2001"
heres a clip from a review of the ZX10R "although the bike is electronically limited to 186mph in the interests of... what? Sanity?"
honda probably just hasn't bothered to restrict the 1000rr electronically because its the only bike in its class that can't go that fast
all you did was name two specific bikes, they made a few more than that over the history of motorcycling and the ZX10R is definetly restricted
as of 2001 no bikes in this country exceed 186 mph... i know for a fact, again you can't argue this, its simply fact, that the hayabusa and gsxr 1000 have electronic top speed limiters, so you can turbo nos whatever all day long and unless you remove that its not going faster than 186 because the engine is going to cut out no matter how much power was pushing the rear wheel at 185 mph, the GSXR 600 and 750 atleast have restrictions that retard the timing in 1st and 2nd gear to lower the torque output, not sure if theres a top speed limiter since they don't go 186mph in stock trim but one very while might still be there, the TL and SV1000's also have this, not sure about the SV650
heres a wikipedia excerpt about the ZX12R "Starting with 2001 models, speed limiters were included to reduce the ZX-12R's top speed to 300 km/h"
and the ZX14 "Top speed is restricted electronically to 300 kilometers per hour (187 mph) according to a gentlemen's agreement between Kawasaki and Suzuki.This limit has been in effect on both Kawasaki and Suzuki hyper sport motorcycles since 2001"
heres a clip from a review of the ZX10R "although the bike is electronically limited to 186mph in the interests of... what? Sanity?"
honda probably just hasn't bothered to restrict the 1000rr electronically because its the only bike in its class that can't go that fast
speed, so that shoots down your arguement.
As for that one bike not accelerating past 186mph, well what about the others that go pass an indicated 186mph?
the bigger bikes the 12s, 14s and Busas were limited back in 01, true but the liter bikes arent restricted. Maybe some are, but not all of them, thats for damn sure.
As i said my boy races top speed 1 mile runs in Florida a GPS indcated 194mph and the only electronic tuning done to the bike was a PCIIII and ignition module.
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Really? I wasn't aware that there is an event held in Florida. The only east coast event that I can think of is Maxton, which is in NC. Actually the only two 1 mile events that I can think of are Maxton and the Texas Mile. Also that 194mph sure as shit wasn't on a Honda.
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i know indicated speed and road speed aren't the same, but that doesn't have a single thing to do with what i'm saying, if i was argueing the exact speed at which they are restricted then you could bring that up and you might have a point, but if the limiter cuts in at 186 mph on the dash and the bike is really going 178 mph true speed then guess what, its still electronically limiting the bikes top speed
Really? I wasn't aware that there is an event held in Florida. The only east coast event that I can think of is Maxton, which is in NC. Actually the only two 1 mile events that I can think of are Maxton and the Texas Mile. Also that 194mph sure as shit wasn't on a Honda.
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I wouldn't get a cutout for a bike unless it was boosted....having little to no backpressure could possibly be detrimental in the long run.
Why not just get a "slash-cut" exhaust? Here's a pic of one on a K6.
Why not just get a "slash-cut" exhaust? Here's a pic of one on a K6.
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thanks
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and about the speed limiters. yeah, all bikes capable of going that fast out of the box are restricted to 186mph. period. that includes 'busa's, gsxr1k's, zx10's, zx14's, AND cbr1000rr's, it's the law, they have to meet that law to even be imported into the USA. if you're running that fast on the street that you actually hit the limiter... you're an idiot.
it is possible to remove the restriction with an aftermarket cpu, or "fooling" the stock cpu into thinking it's going slower than it is. a power commander won't lift that resriction, but an ignition box might, i never really looked into it, as i never had a need to.
as for the flying mile in fla.... where??
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well,
the good thing with this unit is that, at the flick of a switch the cut-out will open and close. so, basically when im cruising i can leave the valve closed, but if i want to ride hard i can open the valve. anyways im still considering this, because nobody has it, and to some people running an open header is too much and just too loud, but it would be something i think i would enjoy. dont think i enjoy it just to anoy people, but something that extreme i think would be pretty cool
the good thing with this unit is that, at the flick of a switch the cut-out will open and close. so, basically when im cruising i can leave the valve closed, but if i want to ride hard i can open the valve. anyways im still considering this, because nobody has it, and to some people running an open header is too much and just too loud, but it would be something i think i would enjoy. dont think i enjoy it just to anoy people, but something that extreme i think would be pretty cool
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if it's a valve that completely opens the exhaust, your gonna have to figure out a way of having dual fuel maps that you can switch to on the fly too, to make it run right. now your talking stand alone engine management stuff, and that's not cheap by any means.
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by the way, anybody have any recomandations besides (motorcycle superstore) for performance parts??