Actually if you look right above my post you would clearly see that the "owned" picture was directed at cbr600f4i's reply to the person sterotyping everyone that rides a bike and NOT, let me say it again NOT at the accident.

I felt bad for the guy and the family that got killed. But it just kinda annoying when people sterotype bikers.

Recently a firend I went to high school with was killed on his gixxer600. Got the bike right out of highschool, never got a lisence or took the mcsv class, no gear and 2 years later (this may) he was killed running from the police over a speeding ticket. Wrecked and hit a tree, died in the ambulance. (And I later found out he was drunk). It's pretty sad to think about it. Bikes are bikes and we all know the awsome things you can do on them. But like anything else when they are abused the cost of often your life.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

I think that you all really need to re-read what she wrote here before you get all over my ass about what I said.

I ALWAYS wear a full face helmet, gloves, boots, jeans and a leather or textile jacket AT THE LEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I DON'T do wheelies, I don't do stoppies (in traffic).........my worse thing is burnouts; I gotta do em, love em too damn much.

So before you get all over me for getting pissed about some high school chick telling me about all the asshole bikers around here you need to look at yourselves first.

My riding a 370 pound bike at 80mph is no where near as dangerous to others on the road as every stinking ricer doing their cars max speed on the highway.

Our bikes were BUILT to do triple digit speeds for EXTENDED periods of time. The engine, suspension, tires and everything else were tested to handle those speeds SAFELY!!! Let me repeat:HANDLE THOSE SPEEDS SAFELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My 1990 CRX wasn't made to do 130 mph, but how many dudes are out there with a b16 or b18 tooling down the highway at 100+ with over 10 year old suspension? HELLO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I don't agree with, nor will I defend the morons who give myself and others a bad name by stunting on the highway. I don't do it nor do I agree with it. But I'm sure as fuck not gonna flame them for it. Now if they're doing a wheelie at 80 mph while wearing flip flops and a tank top I'll be flaming away. But that's another story.




No one here knows me. How many of you have even met me? Seen me ride? Know me as a person? Not a one that I'm aware of. So get off my nuts.

And one more time, re-read this:

She said that's terrible, but some of those bikers do stupid stuff. ??????????????? This dude is fucking dead; but some of those bikers do stupid stuff?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? But I'M the asshole here?

And in response I wrote this:

WTF was wrong with that? You guys really crack me the fuck up..............

 

On a track, not on public streets

 

some of what your saying is right... but most of it is coming down to two wrongs make a right, if a soccer mom's can run redlights and kill bikers why can't we do wheelies and lane split... it doesn't work like that

and just because bikes are built and tested for high speeds doesn't mean everyone who owns one has any business doing them

and the guy who said his dad was at the scene, you say its tragic as if it wasn't his fault, but bodies do not end up a foot ball field away from the bike unless you were doing something illegal, doesn't mean he deserved to die, but would raise my suspicion

but seriously why is everyone so emotion... maybe because we take that risk of riding to heart, but bike accidents never upset me, i see them falling into either one of two catagories

A)they are an idiot and danger to everyone and i'm glad they are dead

or

B)they didn't have it coming, but died doing something they love, and should be envied by all of us that will mostly likely live to rot away in some hospital when we are like 80 years old



i don't know this guy or what happened, but i do know its either good ridence, or good for him for going out doing something as wonderful as riding

 

NOT what I meant.

I ride. Been riding on the street for a while now. Therefore I think that my opinion (imho) should carry some weight with it.

I'm not going to sit here and let some chick bitch about bikers who passed her in a tunnel doing wheelies on a thread about a biker who died.

Nope, not gonna happen.

And you saying good riddance IF he was stunter???????

My opinion of you just went through the fucking toilet. That's a pretty shitty fucking thing to say Del. I'm sure that you obey ALL posted traffic signs right?

 

no where in Bretts post did he say good riddance if he was stunter.

 

i made no connection between idiots and stunters... i would like to think of almost everyone out there with a bike as my brother, but unfortunetly there are a bunch of absolute fucking idiots that unfortunetly can afford a motorcycle... i'm not saying this guy was one of them, but i was saying he either was and i'm glad he's gone, or he wasn't and i'm glad he died doing something he loved, as unfortunate as it is, i can think of much worse ways to go, such as wasting away in a hospital wishing you had done something as exciting in your lifetime as riding a motorcycle

and i didn't say it was ok for me to do anything, take this for example... the other week i went out riding and this guy was out, had a gsxr 1000, cords showing about 4 inches wide around the entire tire, with a girl on the back he would slam the throttle and get the bike sideways going like 60mph in a 25mph busy ass city traffic area of downtown richmond, after doing this over and over and actually somehow doing some wheelies(he was extended mind you) his tire actually started ripping apart before my eyes, chunks of it were flying off, and it started unraveling... i immediatly i tell him, he looks, then shrugs it off and gets it sideways again

my point is, there are people on bikes i wish would wrap themselves around a light pole(after they drop off their female passengers), i said i can't judge this guy because i don't know him or the situation but either way i wouldn't be too sad about it

but i didn't see anything wrong what so ever with what she said... she didn't say all bikers are idiots and deserve to die, just pointed out what she saw, not really sure why she did, but still don't see why anyone took it offensively

 

Im not saying that I follow the law when IM out on my bike all the time 100% but like she said wheelies dont belong in between cars in a tunnel @ 80mph.

I wish all riders would follow these rules and then we might start getting a little more respect from non riders.

Tactics: The Code
Riding Technology
By Chris Hassapis
Link to source

As a group, we motorcyclists would be well served by adopting a code of behavior. At a minimum, every rider should follow the physician's motto: "Above all, do no harm." Examples:

Don't tailgate. It's rude, it's dangerous (unless you aspire to be a bumper sticker), and it's counterproductive. You will be able to make a much faster passing maneuver if you have room to accelerate before moving into the oncoming lane.

If you lane-split on surface streets, watch the traffic light. And when it turns green, be gone. Remember that lane-splitting at a red light is psychologically equivalent to cutting in line for ice cream. It can only be justified if you are a phantom-you don't impact traffic at all. If you're sitting there when the light changes and the cars behind you can't go, you've just cut in line.

Don't make impolite gestures at drivers who pull out in front of you. (You have to be Gandhi to always adhere to this one.) It's a visually structured environment out there. Besides the other cars, motorcycle riders are competing for attention with McDonald's signs, traffic lights, billboards-all things that were expressly designed to get noticed. On top of that, the primary visual clue we humans use to determine the speed of an oncoming object is the rate at which it grows in size. Being rather narrow to begin with, it is inherently difficult to judge the approach speed of a motorcycle. When you are traveling significantly faster than the speed limit, that guy about to turn left is not likely to realize how quickly you're going to be right there.

If you are really committed to the cause:

Wave thanks. When a car moves over to let you by, slows down to let you into a stream of traffic or gives you priority at an intersection, show them you appreciate it. Even if you're not sure it was intentional, do it. After all, thank-yous don't cost a thing. If you won't do it for motorcycling, do it for your mother. Let everyone know she didn't raise an ill-mannered mouth breather.

Facilitate traffic flow. Make space for merging or lane-changing cars (especially those that use a turn signal). Pretty soon people will subconsciously start feeling relief instead of anxiety when they see a bike on the road.

Offer assistance to stranded motorists. There is no quicker way to destroy negative stereotypes. Chances are your knowledge of mechanical things far outstrips that of Johnny Four-door. Show off a little. Most likely you can make a great contribution just by calling someone for them.

On these pages we've read about the Pace. Fundamentally, the Pace is about riding with responsibility to yourself. The natural extension of the Pace is the Code. The sport rider's Code of Behavior is about responsibility toward your sport and your fellow riders. And, at the risk of going a little over the top, toward your fellow man. Everybody knows it's a jungle out there on the road. As kings of the jungle we can afford to show a little grace, tolerance and restraint. And with all the legislative restrictions being bandied about, we really can't afford not to.

This article originally appeared in the February 1995 issue of Sport Rider

 

The laws are there to protect you so when you break them constantly how can you expect anyone to feel sorry for you when you get fucked up? I don't give a shit about someone who doesn't respect their own life much less someone who endangers myself or my family, but if you want to cry every time a stunter takes a fall that's your business.

 

Who said this guy was a stunter? Start a thread in SPO for this shit. VM I hope you wreck the next time you do 60mph.( i.e. breaking the law.) Im sure you've gone over that speed plenty of times before so I guess you would deserve it? Fucking stupid people.