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noyorol_1 05-17-2004 06:55 PM

IS a 250 worth it
 
I am still looking in getting a bike and I found a ninja 250.I am only look ing to spend about 2500 on a bike.Being that i am a new rider.But i want a good bike but a bike with some balls.Now is this bike worth it?

Mr.6 05-17-2004 07:00 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 

Originally Posted by noyorol_1
I am still looking in getting a bike and I found a ninja 250.I am only look ing to spend about 2500 on a bike.Being that i am a new rider.But i want a good bike but a bike with some balls.Now is this bike worth it?

250's dont have balls. They are like the kid that somehow was born with no nuts, but had some artificial ones put in. If your learning, then they are good to get used to 2 wheels, because thats what riding classes teach you on. If you want to get something with balls thats still cool to learn on, get a 600. Just save for it or pick up one that is older for 2500. For a grand more you could probably find a YZF-600R.

CBR600F4 05-18-2004 12:40 AM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 

Originally Posted by Slow_Rolla
250's dont have balls. They are like the kid that somehow was born with no nuts, but had some artificial ones put in. If your learning, then they are good to get used to 2 wheels, because thats what riding classes teach you on. If you want to get something with balls thats still cool to learn on, get a 600. Just save for it or pick up one that is older for 2500. For a grand more you could probably find a YZF-600R.

Sorry dude; worse advice I've seen given here so far.......................

There is nothing wrong with a 250. IMHO you shouldn't be learning on a 600cc sportbike that can do 140+mph, there's no point. Buy the 250 for cheap money; like I've said before, a brand new Ninja 250 is 3k, then sell it after a year and get whatever it is you want.

I hate this whole "I can't let my friends see me on a 250 'cause it's not cool" mentality.

Are you gonna buy your future 16 year old son a brand new Dodge Viper when he's 16?????????????????? NO, 'cause he'll probably kill himself....................

Flite 05-18-2004 07:47 AM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
I agree but I do know the mentality....If you can't stand a 250 then get something like a slightly bigger Katana or something and then excersize some self restraint. Your last name isn't Duhamel, don't act like it is. In my opinion get a 250 if you think you'll be content with it for a year or more. Otherwise get something SLIGHTLY bigger and just show some restraint.

tiki240 05-18-2004 07:50 AM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
i just got done riding a 250cc Suzuki GZ250 all weekend. I got on my ZX6R and my ass and nuts love me much more now :D fark 250's

Del La Sol 1320 05-18-2004 09:58 AM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
my best friend has a 954rr, and he can ride his ass off... and guess what he's shopping for right now for a second bike, a ninja 250, because they are that much fun to ride, especially off road

CBR600F4 05-18-2004 01:02 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 

Originally Posted by Del La Sol 1320
my best friend has a 954rr, and he can ride his ass off... and guess what he's shopping for right now for a second bike, a ninja 250, because they are that much fun to ride, especially off road


:thup:

noyorol_1 05-18-2004 02:04 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
So 250 ya or 250 no.I can get a 250 for 2g but for 500 more I can get a cbr 600.So whats the good starter bike .also whats some bike lego that i should know

tiki240 05-18-2004 02:30 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
if you mean lingo* there isnt too much 1. cagers = ppl in cars 2. squid = ppl riding with little or no gear i.e. T shirt and shorts and if you can get a cbr600 for only 500 more, go with the cbr. sure a 250 CAN be fun, but you will be looking for a bigger bike be it a 500 or 600 in the near future. i personally am kinda a big guy and sittin on a 250 all day doesnt cut it. youll be fine on a 600 if you have dicipline. me, slow rolla, and countless others started with either 600's or 750's. youll be able to ride the hell outta a 250 w/0 gettin too scared BUT everyday use over the summer could get a bit redundant. a 600 bike is a good way to go. you can learn it well, learn its limits and yours and for 2500, you wont wanna hang youself if you lay it down once or twice.

Voodoo ST 05-18-2004 03:17 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
1st gen CBR600 is a good bike to start with!

noyorol_1 05-18-2004 03:46 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
How well can I mod a cbr600 compared to a ninja 250

Voodoo ST 05-18-2004 03:55 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
Worry about learning to ride at 100% first before you start modding the bike! But to answer your question, the 600!

Flite 05-18-2004 05:42 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
I kind of agree. If you have the self restraint to take it easy for quite a while then go with the CBR. Just know that the CBR600 is most likely faster than you think it is and you could get yourself in BIG trouble on it. The hardest thing is going to be getting on something that fast and not going fast on it. You'll have the urge to twist the throttle before you know how to get yourself out of dangerous situations. Simple things like stopping and turning are a lot different on a bike than a car. When you first get the bike stay off busy roads. Find some low traffic, slow moving back roads and learn how the bike handles a little. Just be careful, they can be a lot of fun but they can be very dangerous.

CBR600F4 05-18-2004 06:14 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
No offense dude; but if you're wanting to lear the "lingo" and how to mod the bike BEFORE you even own one?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? I'm not thinking getting a bike is in your best interests..................

You should be asking about the safety course and what gear to wear and some helpful hints and crap like that. Not how can I mod my cbr............ :wtf:

But go ahead and get a bike that I can get parts from you with, once you wreck it........so I reccomend a CBR 600F4. Because with your mentality you'll be trying to wheelie it in second gear on the highway before you learn how to corner it. And I can always use some cheap parts! ;)

TheHub02ss 05-18-2004 06:25 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 

Originally Posted by CBR600F4
You should be asking about the safety course and what gear to wear and some helpful hints and crap like that. Not how can I mod my cbr

Well, I'm new to the sport and I'd like any suggestions regarding the former that you may have.

CBR600F4 05-18-2004 06:40 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 

Originally Posted by TheHub02ss
Well, I'm new to the sport and I'd like any suggestions regarding the former that you may have.


If you're in the military they offer a safety course that you MUST attend just being a military member; and it's free. If not you can take a course through many of the local colleges like TCC; prices average around 100 I believe? Some even offer 250's for you to ride if you don't own your own motorcycle. Once you get the certificate of completion you can go to the DMV and get your license.

As for gear...........

Full face helmet is a must!
Long fingered gloves are a must!
Jeans are a must!
Over the ankle boots are a must!
Long sleaved shirt is a must!
Textile or lether jacket is a plus (a must in MY opinion)

I reccomend getting your learner's permit; it's cheap and easy to get, plus it makes you legal. Cops/judges around here don't play with motorcyclists. If you're caught riding without a license, or riding on a permit without a licensed person with you they'll throw the book at you!

Get someone to teach you to ride who is responsible and will start you off with the basics of riding vice taking you on the highway and making sure you can do 85mph. The basics as in practicing emergency braking so if it happens for real you'll be prepared with the right sequence of events so you'll live through it!!!! Practice makes perfect.

As soon as I get a rear tire I'll be willing to help anyone out if I have the time. I'll hopefully be getting some tires this week, so next weekend is fine.

I'd love to meet some of you guys anyway.

My final advice would be to learn the proper way to ride to keep you safe before you start fooling around on it. If you reverse that order you might not be around long enough to learn how to ride it safely! ;)

noyorol_1 05-19-2004 02:52 AM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
well I have already taken the safty course at tncc.Now i am just shopping around.And I was just asking about the aftermarket product that may be out for the bikes.So you are now assuming that I am going to wreck the bike.Well that proves how close the bike community is in the hampton roads area.

Mr.6 05-19-2004 04:14 AM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 

Originally Posted by noyorol_1
well I have already taken the safty course at tncc.Now i am just shopping around.And I was just asking about the aftermarket product that may be out for the bikes.So you are now assuming that I am going to wreck the bike.Well that proves how close the bike community is in the hampton roads area.


Hahaha, people can only assume because of statistics. I still think you can get a 600, because you have already had 10 hours straight on a 250 (the bikes at tncc were 250's). If you felt comfortable on those a 600 will feel about the same (as far as the weight, just a little heavier) but it will pack more juice (so go easy on the throttle until you have your friction point just right and ur used to it. From there, its all about self control, thats why i dont see 600's as bad starter bikes, as long as you have taken the class and gotten the xp on a bike. I would suggest you test ride anything that u plan on riding. Its what i did when i picked up my 6, it felt different, but i quickly got used to it. Good luck man. :thup:

Alwayslast 05-19-2004 07:26 AM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 

Originally Posted by noyorol_1
well I have already taken the safty course at tncc.Now i am just shopping around.And I was just asking about the aftermarket product that may be out for the bikes.So you are now assuming that I am going to wreck the bike.Well that proves how close the bike community is in the hampton roads area.


It's tough love here. ;)
as for your question on either getting a 250 or a 600, now thats a tough choice given the price you quoted.

I would go with the cbr.
what year is it?

Del La Sol 1320 05-19-2004 12:50 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
also remember guys, starting on a 250 doesn't make you wreck-proof... i see lots of guys start on a 1000, 750 and wreck and everyone is like "told you to start on a 600", well i'm sorry but i think alot of them are just dumbasses and would have wrecked just the same on a 600... same goes for a 250, if you can't survive on a 600 chances are you probably would have gone down just the same on a moped, starting on the right bike greatly increases your odds of being around next season, but it isn't the be-all end-all of learning... i would not recommend starting on anything bigger than a 600 or anything newer than a 2000, but if your mature and read alot, have some good friend's to help you out, take the course, and get good gear then starting on a 600(not a 2004) is possible, i did it, sort of... got the bare essentials down on a 81 CB450 in some parking lots because i had zero experience, i had never even started up a dirt bike, but then got on a 1995 honda cbr 600 f3 and learned comfortably on that

can it be done? yes... can everyone do it? no... so you need to look in the mirror and be honest to yourself and decide if you have enough self preservation to either A)be mature enough on a 600, or B)realize you won't be able to contain yourself and get on a 250

noyorol_1 05-19-2004 01:09 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
I know for sure I want to ride.I had fun iin the classes.I know that more then likely I will drop the bike.I am always ready for the worse.But I hope I am in the percential of the ones who have not droped yet.I have done my readin and I have done tons of research.I Know I am ready and ready for the bumps and scraps.But its for the fun and the love for riding.I thanks for the tough love thats normally the best way to learn.The cbr 600 is a 95.

tiki240 05-19-2004 01:20 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
sweet its an F3 go for it! just ride safe homie and dont let riding with friends encourage you to pin that throttle only go as fast as you feel comfortable with. dont give into peer pressure ( im guilty of it) ride within your own limits and have fun!

noyorol_1 05-19-2004 01:28 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
thanks man i hope next spring i can ride with some of ya

Abysalone 05-19-2004 05:44 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 

Originally Posted by TheHub02ss
Well, I'm new to the sport and I'd like any suggestions regarding the former that you may have.

Sup Jason , find a bike so I can buy some of your monte's mods :) Let me know if you get one and we can go ridin.

I would say start with a 250 or 500 ninja if you have never rode a dirt biike or street bike before. If you can drive a manual transmission and can learn throttle control I would say go with a 600. Good luck

TheHub02ss 05-19-2004 06:34 PM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
CBR600F4-
Thanks for the info I reallly appreciate it.

I'm not in the military but I'm going to register for the MCSV course this week for the first available class (prob latter this summer)

I've already got my learners last august when I had to renew my drivers.

I've got some other questions but I'll prob drop you a pm.

Abysalone-
Long time no see man. I've actually thoug about selling the monte for a truck but I don't think I can bare to part with the monte but who knows. But I hope to find a decent deal on a used 600cc bike this fall.

2001gtP1SC 05-22-2004 05:16 AM

Re: IS a 250 worth it
 
Buy the 600, take your time, stay slow in the corners. And just have fun. You can kill yourself on a 250cc bike just as easily as you can on a 1300cc bike. Its all about rider control and rider awareness. Pay atention to your surroundings respect your right grip ( throttle ) and youll be fine. Get a little ballzy before you are well practiced and you will pay for it one way or another, no doubt. Get some gear too.

I learned how to ride on a 99 F4 CBR. I put 1000 miles on it and then moved up to the busa. And had no "formal" training. RESPECT!

Good luck, and make sure you think your decision through so you dont get tired of what ya got to early cuz it may be "weak" for you liking.

Hope this helps and take it easy.


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