God damn Chris, it takes a lot of energy to argue with you. I mean are you refering to lots of negative offset for a nice lip? I mean you right, if there's more to it than that and maybe some nice negative camber, stretched tires so the sidewalls don't slack, while still retaining a nice contact patch, I guess I don't know shit about VIP. I just can't believe you'd have to sit there with a tape ruler measuring some cars offset to know its VIP. "Oh whoops, the offsets off a bit, this isn't a VIP car guys."

And no I wasn't refering to the fact that I'm partially Asian. That might as well make me white.

 

Because your argument just doesn't make sence... I don't even klnow what you are arguing about.. you are just set on convincing everyone that VIP is gay, when you really don't understand it. But thats ok. Also there are several factors that play into having a nice lip and you don't need negative offset to achieve it. The wheel's Disk also has a lot to do with it.

No, if you would read what I said before you'd realize that it's more important WHY the offset makes it VIP. why don't you put some 17x7 +45 gay ass wheels on the rear of a gs300 and see how that looks, and compare it to some 18x10 +20 wheels (still a fairly conservative offset) and tell me which looks better. Like I said you have to KNOW something about the subject you are arguing about.

 

It's about looks, am I correct? That's not at all hard to comprehend. I don't see how my logic is hard to understand. First you take whats a nice luxury car and you try to churn some performance out of it, and maximizing looks. All this compromises the luxury. What's the point? If you want a performance car, buy a sports car. If you want a luxury car, leave it the fuck alone.

 

chris...go to class. how much money did u win/lose??

 

Liberty isn't closed? I guess you guys didn't get any snow out there.

 

Yes, it's about a CERTIAN look. and aparently it is hard to comprehend.

No, generally the whole point of a VIP car is to have looks, not performance, or luxury it just so happens that most japanese sedans that are classified and VIP come equipped with easily upgradable turbo motors. Stock cars are generally boring, now if the GS and Q45 were offered in the US with the same motors as in Japan I think you'd feel diffrently about the cars. Yea, they are heavy, but are extremely easy to make go fast.

What's more badass than having a car like a GS with over 600hp (reliably) classy looking body kit and some badass wheels? That's a nice highway cruiser and can walk 99% of the stuff it races? How is that not cool?

 

No class.. we have almost a foot of snow on teh ground...

 

haha you guys bicker a lot here.

 

Welcome to dragva

 

well you can have a broke ass MR2....i guess thats pretty bad ass