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Old 07-19-2011, 07:03 AM
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Awesome, I bet it's a blast to drive.
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:41 AM
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Looks awesome but I couldn't imagine anyone driving it on "twisties". The guy driving looked like he could barely keep it on a straight road.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Fabrik8
Sweeeeet. I still don't know about the boost delivery with a 4 cylinder in a car that light though.
Actually, it works out surprisingly well with the PTE 6262-B ball bearing (SP cover, T3 .82 A/R V-Band discharge). The only issue that I think the car has is that noone has f'ed with the Motec's traction control yet. I might have put a 30r on there to move the powerband around a bit. That is the first car I've been in that has an amazingly effective downforce-the faster it goes the more control you seem to have- it just sticks to the road. With the short wheelbase you can just flick the wheel and change lanes.

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that shit is awesome. Looks like a pain in the ass to drive. that dude was all over the place. thought he was gonna be chirping a few gears just from the way the clutch was engaging.
He removed the rear fenders after that video was shot and put more rubber in the back. It no longer chirps second (thank god) and just pulls. Scotty has a low 8 second supra and a low 8 second 94 mustang so he wanted the Ariel to go fast in the straights as well as corner well. Real Street nailed that.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:36 AM
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Holy balls! I finally got a medal!
I'm happy.
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Is that you in the pictures?

Things looks scary to drive.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:40 AM
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Default Re: 650 hp, turbo, built motor k20 Ariel Atom...

Originally Posted by shonanspeed
Actually, it works out surprisingly well with the PTE 6262-B ball bearing (SP cover, T3 .82 A/R V-Band discharge). The only issue that I think the car has is that noone has f'ed with the Motec's traction control yet. I might have put a 30r on there to move the powerband around a bit. That is the first car I've been in that has an amazingly effective downforce-the faster it goes the more control you seem to have- it just sticks to the road. With the short wheelbase you can just flick the wheel and change lanes.
It's not where the powerband is, it's the linearity of the power delivery and the throttle response from the turbo. Having that much power from a 4 cyl means that most of the power is related to the turbo and not the base engine displacement, so the throttle response and power linearity problems tend to become disruptive to making a clean lap.
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Default Re: 650 hp, turbo, built motor k20 Ariel Atom...

Originally Posted by Fabrik8
It's not where the powerband is, it's the linearity of the power delivery and the throttle response from the turbo. Having that much power from a 4 cyl means that most of the power is related to the turbo and not the base engine displacement, so the throttle response and power linearity problems tend to become disruptive to making a clean lap.
That was my point with the supercharger comment. I think small 4 cyl engines perform much better with superchargers than they do with turbos. Throttle response and the linear power curve remain similar to stock, just amplified. I would bet money that 9 times out of 10 a supercharged version of that engine with ~450hp would lap a track substantially quicker than that monster would.
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Originally Posted by shonanspeed
Yeah you do! JE sent a bunch of the new hotness pistons, shirts, hats and their easy-up booth for this race just for it to get rained out so I kept that shit. It was still fun though- we were set up across from a bodypainting booth so it was a steady stream of naked boobied girls in thongs getting sprayed all day. (Got pics- IDK if I can post them her
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Is that you in the pictures?
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Default Re: 650 hp, turbo, built motor k20 Ariel Atom...

Originally Posted by shonanspeed
Actually, it works out surprisingly well with the PTE 6262-B ball bearing (SP cover, T3 .82 A/R V-Band discharge). The only issue that I think the car has is that noone has f'ed with the Motec's traction control yet. I might have put a 30r on there to move the powerband around a bit. That is the first car I've been in that has an amazingly effective downforce-the faster it goes the more control you seem to have- it just sticks to the road. With the short wheelbase you can just flick the wheel and change lanes.

He removed the rear fenders after that video was shot and put more rubber in the back. It no longer chirps second (thank god) and just pulls. Scotty has a low 8 second supra and a low 8 second 94 mustang so he wanted the Ariel to go fast in the straights as well as corner well. Real Street nailed that.
derp.

id really like to see this thing lap a road course with a good driver
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: 650 hp, turbo, built motor k20 Ariel Atom...

Originally Posted by Flite
That was my point with the supercharger comment. I think small 4 cyl engines perform much better with superchargers than they do with turbos. Throttle response and the linear power curve remain similar to stock, just amplified. I would bet money that 9 times out of 10 a supercharged version of that engine with ~450hp would lap a track substantially quicker than that monster would.
More than likely...but IMO it wouldnt be nearly as fun. And by fun I mean, "holy shit this is amazingly dumb and I cant stop laughing while I'm driving it" fun...not "I have a better power curve than you so around a track Im slightly quicker than you" fun.


If that makes any sense.
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