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Old 02-13-2006, 07:31 AM
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Default Re: Fast N/A 4 cylinders in the area?

Originally Posted by MerF
I didn't say never, I said very un-common. The people arguing are telling me that any run-o-the-mill 4 banger cna do it.
Of course not, but all you have to do is buy a hatch or CRX, throw a k20 or maybe a modified B18 and you'll run 12s full interior. I mean the run-o-the-mill 8-cylinders aren't running 12s either.
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Old 02-13-2006, 07:51 AM
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Default Re: Fast N/A 4 cylinders in the area?

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Of course not, but all you have to do is buy a hatch or CRX, throw a k20 or maybe a modified B18 and you'll run 12s full interior. I mean the run-o-the-mill 8-cylinders aren't running 12s either.
What do you consider run of the mill 8 cylinders, buick roadmasters? Most performance v8 powered american cars can get into the 12's with boltons.
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Default Re: Fast N/A 4 cylinders in the area?

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What do you consider run of the mill 8 cylinders, buick roadmasters? Most performance v8 powered american cars can get into the 12's with boltons.
Beat me to it.
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Default Re: Fast N/A 4 cylinders in the area?

Originally Posted by smooshie butt
What do you consider run of the mill 8 cylinders, buick roadmasters? Most performance v8 powered american cars can get into the 12's with boltons.
So what do you consider a "bolt on"? and "most" V8 powered american cars need alittle more than simple bolt ons to run 12's. If that was the case then "most" V8 powered cars wouldn't get their asses handed to them by a simple EF hatch with a B16 swap. Remember, you said most!
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Old 02-13-2006, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: Fast N/A 4 cylinders in the area?

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What do you consider run of the mill 8 cylinders, buick roadmasters? Most performance v8 powered american cars can get into the 12's with boltons.
Hum how about one of the most popular v8-powered American cars ever: the Mustang? It doesn't do it with just bolt-ons. Merf's LT1 doesn't do it either.
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Default Re: Fast N/A 4 cylinders in the area?

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If that was the case then "most" V8 powered cars wouldn't get their asses handed to them by a simple EF hatch with a B16 swap.
You realize bolt-ons are more than just an Intake and a catback? Yes, a Mustang with only an intake filter and catback will lose that race anyday...but with true power-adding bolt-ons, MOST performacen oriented V-8 domestics will win the race.
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Default Re: Fast N/A 4 cylinders in the area?

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You realize bolt-ons are more than just an Intake and a catback? Yes, a Mustang with only an intake filter and catback will lose that race anyday...but with true power-adding bolt-ons, MOST performacen oriented V-8 domestics will win the race.
Well what the fuck do you consider a bolt-on? Cams?
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Old 02-13-2006, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: Fast N/A 4 cylinders in the area?

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Hum how about one of the most popular v8-powered American cars ever: the Mustang? It doesn't do it with just bolt-ons. Merf's LT1 doesn't do it either.
Um, 4.6 SOHC powered mustangs will run 12's with just boltons, DOHC will be even easier. So will 5.0 Foxbody's. So will LT1 powere F bodys, and LS1 powered F bodys is a given.

For instance, take a LT1 F body: Longtube headers, 3" Y pipe, 3" Exhaust, CAI, Gears, sticky tires. You'll easily be into the 12's. If you have an auto, its even easier, even with a low powered LT1.

C MY 4D has a 4.6 GT in the 12's with nothing but boltons and sticky tires.
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Old 02-13-2006, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: Fast N/A 4 cylinders in the area?

Originally Posted by Yell88CRXsi
So what do you consider a "bolt on"? and "most" V8 powered american cars need alittle more than simple bolt ons to run 12's. If that was the case then "most" V8 powered cars wouldn't get their asses handed to them by a simple EF hatch with a B16 swap. Remember, you said most!
Just because "most" cars need onthing but bolt-ons to run a 12 second 1320, doesnt mean they have the boltons, or the driver to pull it off. Each car is different, individually. Some people can run an amazing time with a certain combo, and other run half a second or more slower with the exact same combo, exact same car.

Dont generalize each car is all I'm saying, saying that it takes alot to get a v8 powered domestic into the 12's isnt a correct statement.
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Default Re: Fast N/A 4 cylinders in the area?

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Well what the fuck do you consider a bolt-on? Cams?

Headers, X pipes, Catbacks, Pulleys, CAI, Gears, Throttle Body's, tires, stall's, suspension work.
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