I was more focused on the last sentence you made. However, you summed it up here. I took it as you were saying that never really happens, which isn't true. But i agree for every one person that suceeds without college there are prob another 10k that don't, can't, or won't try.

Edit i also like to note i thought you were referencing dropping out of or never attending college, not HS. If you drop out of HS for any reason your screwed. And I would be scared if my mother would LET me drop out of HS to help her financially.

 

I'm sorry...where did I call you fucking stupid?

I was just pointing out the facts that staying in school and getting a degree will be better in the long run. You made the right decision by staying in school and I applaud you for it.

 

You realize that it a trap? Having children quit school to provide for the family will only further poverty in your family in the long run. There are goverment programs in place to help struggling mothers.

 

No my mother does quite well on her own,its my sisters who like to mooch off her.Long story short im not going to watch my mother struggle on her on because my sisters are ass's and have kids when they cant afford them.On a side not i had/have a plan for my life,high school then night school for business while i take an apprentice ship for commercial electricity.

 

Thank you.

My point is that if you want to be successful and you have the drive then you will be (Rockefeller, Gates etc).

I'm starting to see a disturbing trend among the youth of today. They blow most of their cash on crap. When I was 16 I never dreamed of buying a $400 iPod or cell phone or a 240 shell to put in a $5K motor. I was working minimum wage (about $4.50 an hour) to put gas in my car, pay for the insurance and save for college all the while driving a beat to shit 80 Ford Fairmont

Now a days kids are working a shit ton of hours to make money to support their buying habits, not doing well in school and then failing to save money to go to college which then forces them into unskilled labor which perpetuates the cycle.

 

As I already said... government programs. Your mother makes the choices she makes because it sounds like she cares for them and doesn't know how to make them self dependent. I won't get into that though.

 

If i can find it im going to copy and intresting article on this Class of youth. They are now calle dthe Gold Collar generation. Perfect oppertunity for making money however if you look at it the correct way.

Edit* here it is

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...dcollar08.html

[qoute]SAN JOSE, Calif. — They find solace in $325 Christian Dior sunglasses, a shot of confidence in a $600 Louis Vuitton handbag. Never mind that they still live with their parents and earn a modest salary in service jobs.

For these working-class young adults, luxury is not just for the rich. Just ask Danielle Garcia, a receptionist at Kaiser Permanente who is in the midst of planning her lavish 24th birthday bash for 75 friends at the trendy Vault nightclub in downtown San Jose, Calif.

She and her pals don't know it, but they're part of a new niche that marketers say is growing: the gold-collar generation, blue-collar's glitzy counterpart.

"I'm really in awe of name-brand things," said Garcia, who moved back in with her parents to pay off mounting credit-card debt. "I want to feel glamorous."

The appetite for designer labels and anything associated with celebrity has helped push luxury sales in the United States to $525 billion last year, up from $450 billion in 2003. By 2010, Americans are expected to spend $1 trillion on luxury goods, according to Michael Silverstein, co-author of "Trading Up: Why Consumers Want New Luxury Goods."

The gold-collar contingent, ages 18-25, is doing its part by downing $12 Kettle One vodka martinis and sporting the sleekest rims on their Lincoln Navigators. To sustain a lifestyle inspired by rap videos and pop-culture magazines such as Us, they spend a disproportionate amount of their disposable income on expensive brand-name products and services.

For many, any interest in college and pursuing a career beyond retail or service industry is deferred, even abandoned, in order to maintain champagne tastes on a beer budget. Lacking an identity, they attempt to create their own through expensive clothing and accessories, said Ian Pierpoint, a senior vice president at the Chicago research firm Synovate.

"This is the best-dressed, least-able, least-equipped generation ever," Pierpoint said. "If you're 24 or 25 and you're still at home, you're not doing a lot of things, like paying your own utilities. They are in some ways very experienced, but they are more coddled than other generations."

There were about 20 million young people who could be categorized as working-class in 2003, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. That's more than half of the 18-to-25 population. In a phone survey of blue-collar adults within that age range, Synovate found that more than a third are what they have dubbed "gold-collar."

Garcia has never heard of the term, but her lifestyle and spending habits fit the bill: She once exchanged $305 Chanel sunglasses for $325 Christian Dior shades because a friend had bought the same pair. The owner of more than 100 pairs of shoes, Garcia built the theme of her birthday party around the Al Pacino gangster film "Scarface." The invitations read "The World Is Yours," a reference to the catchphrase on a Goodyear blimp that inspired Pacino's character to embark on a crime spree rooted in entitlement.




"I want everyone to look at me. I want to have a lot of attention," she said. "I realize how shallow it sounds, but you know what? It's just what I like. I can't help what I like."

Jason Leong, 24, a makeup artist at Stila Cosmetics in San Jose, said he's more charged by the thrill of a new trinket than the attention it generates. He holds up his right wrist to show off a prized find, a canvas Christian Dior bracelet.

"This one was $180," he said, "but it makes me happy, so it's worth it."

Leong has tried to cut back on his high-end purchases from a year ago, reducing his $1,000-a-month spending budget, which was 60 percent of his take-home salary, to about $400 a month. He now sets aside $25 a week toward the purchase of a house so that he can move out of his father's place in Hayward, Calif.

When he walked into the Hugo Boss store at Valley Fair on a recent shopping jaunt, three salespeople gave him a nod and acknowledged him by name.

"This," he said, "is where I go when I want to spend money."

His dad, Jack Leong, calls himself "a fairly lenient father" and said he doesn't charge his son rent because he's obligated to provide for his children.

"I've raised two boys, and I have always felt that as long as they were good people and didn't get into trouble, that's fine," Leong's father said. "They like the more expensive stuff, but as long as they earn the money to buy it, that's their business."

Jason Leong's love of everything lavish is emblematic of the country's snowballing obsession with celebrity culture, said Gwendolyn Audrey Foster, author of the upcoming book "Class-Passing: Social Mobility in Film and Popular Culture." Many young people, she said, are inspired to live like stars even as the economy becomes more uncertain.

"I don't know if these kids are responding to seeing their parents not getting the payoffs to the American dream," said Foster, a professor of English and film studies at the University of Nebraska. "But if they see that what their parents did is not working, or if they see someone who has worked for 30 years at United Airlines lose their pension, can you blame them?"[/qoute]

 

LO fucking L at the guy setting aside $100 a month to buy a house in California.

He'll have enough for a down payment in 40 years

 

pretty sure the savings go up after higher paying jobs...
i would hope

 

Shes not worried about them shes worried about the gran-kids.