wow get it together homie.. churn was a industry record low last quarter (will get the exact figures later today), in dc our revision a pc cards dl at about 1/9mps-2.3MPS (i have personal seen them do it).. and you are right cingular is so originally when it comes to phones. i mean look at the black jack. oh wait isn't that EXACTLY like the q? and the blackberry pearl is a great original device. wait didn't t mobile have that out first too?? and what the hell are you talking about the in network is analog?? do you know how long verizon has been trying to get rid of people and their cheap analog phones/price plans?? yesterday i switched someone from a $3.99 plan from 1998 to a $69.99 plan. verizon is loving me for that! some come talk to me in febuarary 2008 (when the fcc mandates the analog network be taken down) and you will see that verizon still has the best coverage