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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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Re: sohc_mshue (Tuning)

Originally Posted by sohc_mshue
I already made a response to this when you brought it up in this thread, but you never responded back https://www.vadriven.com/forums/nova-dc-md-16/turbo-tuners-203307/ . I really dont see why you are getting mad at me because YOUR car wouldn't go above 13psi. I dont know why somebody would bring a 5psi wastegate spring when they want to make 500whp. Also just because crome has some issues it doesn't mean you need to bash me. I dont just tune crome in fact i dont even use it on my own car anymore. It has some minor issues and i've still had good success with it when people would rather use that than spend the money on something more expensive like hondata. I'm not sure what you are talking about with the 2-step, but you are right the rev limit wanted to kick in earlier than where we had it set on your car.

As for the whole dyno Brake thing i'm sorry i made a mistake and tried to start a pull with the Brake on. It was a long day driving 3 hours up there in the heat and i was just tired and not feeling well. I simply made a simple mistake. The dyno was not going to miracuously break from making a simple mistake like that. I didn't drop the clutch and start doing burnouts on the roller. I wouldn't have given him my credit card or put up with any of his bullshit if i wasn't using the dyno for a customer's car. I simply would have left. The owner of AUP handled it completly wrong and came off as a complete ass.

As for the GSR I was told that was the second time norris tuned it that it made 290whp on 11psi. We hadn't run that much boost on it before. Plus it was tuned on the DYNO. I'm sorry i didn't pull the same numbers on a street tune as what was made on a full dyno tune. Hondata isn't the reason the car made more power either. If the car is getting the proper fuel and the proper timing then it doesn't matter what its tuned on.

The price you payed was because like i said in the other thread there was a lot of unescessary time spent on this car. You could have brought the car down to where i normally dyno at and recieved a much lower price on hourly dyno time + you would not have needed to pay me to drive over 2 hours away for the tune.


either way..whatever anyone says..matts the shit when tuning..not only he makes sure the car is gonna be tuning ready and checks everything...neatless to say, some places dont even do all the preparation that matt does..my car run and pulls hard when he tuned it..and the price is very affordable! i wont go anywhere else to tune my car other than matt......
Old Sep 16, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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Matt does good work as I have said before. But just like anything else in this world, you can not truly expect the non expected.


And next time I see your car on top deck Matt, im gonna graffiti pen the hell out of your windows
Old Sep 16, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Fl1pSde 101
either way..whatever anyone says..matts the shit when tuning..not only he makes sure the car is gonna be tuning ready and checks everything...neatless to say, some places dont even do all the preparation that matt does..my car run and pulls hard when he tuned it..and the price is very affordable! i wont go anywhere else to tune my car other than matt......
Hell yea we had a good time tuning yesterday I wish I could have seen you and KC race on the way back haha.
Old Sep 16, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenLeg13
Matt does good work as I have said before. But just like anything else in this world, you can not truly expect the non expected.


And next time I see your car on top deck Matt, im gonna graffiti pen the hell out of your windows
Wait a couple weeks until my car gets all dirty again. I just cleaned it. Apparantely there is another green civic like mine thats boosted in the parking deck. Any idea who it is?
Old Sep 16, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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I saw a green one with ugly wheels but no more than that. Usually 2nd level. Parks straight in so I never noticed a front mount if any.

BTW... wtf is with the 3472938479 240sx's in that deck
Old Sep 16, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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I was at AUP with matt when that car was tuned first of all AUP shop is a joke everyone is rued there the owner rushing us on the dyno and saying he was gonna kill matt if he broke his dyno what a fucking moron, matt is trying to tune a car there and theres another guy up his ass tell him you should get hondata blah blah. i've had 3 cars tuned by matt all have made more power than most built setups and have been more reliable than most cars. That hatch that was on the dyno wouldnt go past 13psi he had a 5 psi spring in it and a ebay Boost Controller, and to top it off you had a Ebay T70 that didnt spool up till 9,000rpm, and the turbo locked up on the way home. from my point of view matt is a good tuner and if you want to make 500whp on a setup come prepared. i bet even if you took your car to norris it still wouldnt of made 500whp hondata or not. I can Vouch for matts work and i know its top notch and i'm sure most people on here can agree.

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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sohc_mshue
I already made a response to this when you brought it up in this thread, but you never responded back https://www.vadriven.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203307 . I really dont see why you are getting mad at me because YOUR car wouldn't go above 13psi. I dont know why somebody would bring a 5psi wastegate spring when they want to make 500whp. Also just because crome has some issues it doesn't mean you need to bash me. I dont just tune crome in fact i dont even use it on my own car anymore. It has some minor issues and i've still had good success with it when people would rather use that than spend the money on something more expensive like hondata. I'm not sure what you are talking about with the 2-step, but you are right the rev limit wanted to kick in earlier than where we had it set on your car.

As for the whole dyno Brake thing i'm sorry i made a mistake and tried to start a pull with the Brake on. It was a long day driving 3 hours up there in the heat and i was just tired and not feeling well. I simply made a simple mistake. The dyno was not going to miracuously break from making a simple mistake like that. I didn't drop the clutch and start doing burnouts on
the roller. I wouldn't have given him my credit card or put up with any of his bullshit if i wasn't using the dyno for a customer's car. I simply would have left. The owner of AUP handled it completly wrong and came off as a complete ass.

As for the GSR I was told that was the second time norris tuned it that it made 290whp on 11psi. We hadn't run that much boost on it before. Plus it was tuned on the DYNO. I'm sorry i didn't pull the same numbers on a street tune as what was made on a full dyno tune. Hondata isn't the reason the car made more power either. If the car is getting the proper fuel and the proper timing then it doesn't matter what its tuned on.

The price you payed was because like i said in the other thread there was a lot of unescessary time spent on this car. You could have brought the car down to where i normally dyno at and received a much lower price on hourly dyno time + you would not have needed to pay me to drive over 2 hours away for the tune.
LONG !!!!!
Since i am being mentioned in here i will leave some input. When i had my turbo installed i needed a simple tune.It is the first time i am turbo charged and i did not know any good tuners around the area. Jason referred me to Matt because Matt was going to tune Jason's car. Long story short i needed a critical tune in order to drive my car safe. I spoke with Matt and he said to come down to Richmond so he can do a street tune. After spend some time in Richmond the car was street tuned at around 7psi ,and let me tell you , i was having the best time of my life when i was street tuning it.W/e we did on the streets in richmond was hardly possible to be done in NOVA. 3 lines wide, open straight roads are just a must. I had fun driving on the way back. I was also able to race a ms3 and kick some ass lol.
Tech problems, the car was not idling perfectly well. Matt & I tried figuring out what the problem was with the idle.Matt made phone calls on his expense to find out why it did that. From my own knowledge it look like the gs-r intake manifold sometimes acts funny. It was a car/ ecu problem. I also heard from others that they were expiring some problems with crome during that time. As a last sentence i don't think we can compare a street tune to a dyno tune with another ecu. It is irrelevant to compare. I think Matt is a great tuner , and he is only human. Mistakes are made everyday , and i am sure that any tuner in the world made one mistake in his life. I am sure as hell could make a mistake after driving for hours and then tuning on a car. As for tuning locally i have spoken to Matt, why i went to another tuner. A couple of reasons was the cost was going to be around the same amount, 2nd i live 5 min from AUP. 3rd the distance. 4th if something broke down, they wold have the parts i needed to fix my car etc etc. If Matt was locally i would sure let him tune my car again but first making sure i have all the accessories installed to reach my goal. Everyone gets a chance in life to be at the top. some people just chose the alternative that works best "rational behavior"



Originally Posted by DK876
I was at AUP with matt when that car was tuned first of all AUP shop is a joke everyone is rued there the owner rushing us on the dyno and saying he was gonna kill matt if he broke his dyno what a fucking moron, matt is trying to tune a car there and theres another guy up his ass tell him you should get hondata blah blah. i've had 3 cars tuned by matt all have made more power than most built setups and have been more reliable than most cars. That hatch that was on the dyno wouldnt go past 13psi he had a 5 psi spring in it and a ebay Boost Controller, and to top it off you had a Ebay T70 that didnt spool up till 9,000rpm, and the turbo locked up on the way home. from my point of view matt is a good tuner and if you want to make 500whp on a setup come prepared. i bet even if you took your car to norris it still wouldnt of made 500whp hondata or not. That Gsr that norris tuned it was tuned on the dyno i had my car on the dyno and it picked up 20whp just tuning it on there compared the street, so that doesnt even matter if its on hondata or chrome. I can Vouch for matts work and i know its top notch and i'm sure most people on here can agree.
For everyone:about AUP
yes the owner is rough sometimes but he doesn't care if you feel bad about it. Its his shop you follow his rules, if not gtfo simply. Even the people that work there know that he can be like that sometimes. When you know him somewhat better you will understand the theme he is trying to make an example of. I sure as hell don't want people walking under the lifts checking out cars. He doesn't want any trouble. AUP is great shop on my part, i am giving top notch service and the tech's that are on va driven all know that. AUP is about helping customers instead of making profit. One of my friends needed a downpipe installed on his legacy, the same day, because he would head down to Richmond the next morning. I called AUP and spoke to the Owner and told him i need to get it done today, he said that he was all booked for the day. Even though he is full and knows that i can go to another shop to do it, he calls me up 1 hour before closing and tells me that he has spot for me. My friend got his dp installed in 1 hour. Why did he do it ? because he knows i am a frequent returning customer and brings business to him. As for the tuner (Noriss) i don't know what people are mention about things that happen in the past, but we live in the present, i said earlier we are only human. I just told norris i want to make 300whp or high 200's with safe #'s. After tuning it for 30 min, the car was finished and he asked me me if i am happy with the result. I told him that i am surprised. i am happy with my ride, i am sure as well going to give him props.

To DK :you seem to know me ? and you are sir ?were you the one who tagged along with Matt when he came down to tune the green hatch >?

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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ravenracer
LONG !!!!!
Since i am being mentioned in here i will leave some input. When i had my turbo installed i needed a simple tune.It is the first time i am turbo charged and i did not know any good tuners around the area. Jason referred me to Matt because Matt was going to tune Jason's car. Long story short i needed a critical tune in order to drive my car safe. I spoke with Matt and he said to come down to Richmond so he can do a street tune. After spend some time in Richmond the car was street tuned at around 7psi ,and let me tell you , i was having the best time of my life when i was street tuning it.W/e we did on the streets in richmond was hardly possible to be done in NOVA. 3 lines wide, open straight roads are just a must. I had fun driving on the way back. I was also able to race a ms3 and kick some ass lol.
Tech problems, the car was not idling perfectly well. Matt & I tried figuring out what the problem was with the idle.Matt made phone calls on his expense to find out why it did that. From my own knowledge it look like the gs-r intake manifold sometimes acts funny. It was a car/ ecu problem. I also heard from others that they were expiring some problems with crome during that time. As a last sentence i don't think we can compare a street tune to a dyno tune with another ecu. It is irrelevant to compare. I think Matt is a great tuner , and he is only human. Mistakes are made everyday , and i am sure that any tuner in the world made one mistake in his life. I am sure as hell could make a mistake after driving for hours and then tuning on a car. As for tuning locally i have spoken to Matt, why i went to another tuner. A couple of reasons was the cost was going to be around the same amount, 2nd i live 5 min from AUP. 3rd the distance. 4th if something broke down, they wold have the parts i needed to fix my car etc etc. If Matt was locally i would sure let him tune my car again but first making sure i have all the accessories installed to reach my goal. Everyone gets a chance in life to be at the top. some people just chose the alternative that works best "rational behavior"





you seem to know me ? and you are sir ?

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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason300zxTT
I had my old hatch tuned by him, I spent ALOT of money to have him tune it on the street and then drive up here to tune it on the dyno. Im not talking the 150 he charges for the street tune. We will just say I had a little over 600 invested on a tune that still was not finished My car was on race gas and never got above 13psi. We needed to change the wastegate spring but spending 3 and a half hours on the dyno making over 15 pulls just to reach 13psi it never made the boost/power goal in mind. Im sorry to say but I watched Norris at AUP RE-TUNE a GSR matt tuned that amde 259whp to after norris's tune made 290whp in 4 pulls at the same boost from a base stock tune. Airfuel/timing was very safe from both tunes but norris tuned on hondata vs crome like matt uses. Crome seems to have alot of issues with 2 steps letting go and rev limiters not limiting the rev's like it is
suppose to. I would suggest hondata over crome any day of the week. Also Matt had to give his credit card to AUP because they thought he was going to break the dyno because he tried to make a pull/start moving on the dyno with out releasing the dyno brake. I was then told I needed to take control of the brake because they did not trust him. Needless to say In future tuning sorry matt but i think you lack alot of tuning skills needed and will be taking my business else where. Again sorry but I just think you can SAVE alot of money and time by having someone who does this for a living and actualy races/set the bar for other tuners tyring to make it in the game. Good luck again with everything you have alot of people who trust in your tunes so im sure you will make it sooner or later.
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You were running a 5 pound spring trying to push over 13 lbs?? Not only that, you have a S-FAB and ebay kit! Do you have ANY quality parts on your half assed setup? We can already tell you're too cheap to upgrade your wastegate spring.

Jason, you do not have the first car I have witnessed Matt tune with MULTIPLE problems relating to the laziness of Brad. You sold the car for the reason, and I'm sure it wasn't because you got tired of it.

You bitch when you get Brad Sebera to build you a motor and blame it on the tuner. Like I said in the last post, I'm sure 3 of those "claimed" 3 1/2 hours spent on your car were Matt attempting to fix what Brad had already half-assed.

I would not begin to trust another person with my car other than Matt Shue. I hope this single negative post prevents anyone from contacting Matt for a tune.



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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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Jason is upset that it took 3+ hours and cost $600+ to only do 15 pulls.

Dustin claims that all issues are mechanical and the turbo setup and that the setup wouldn't make 500 if he wanted .

Matt claims the waste gate spring was the issue, as to why it could only be tuned to what it was.

Mike claims a spun bearing was due to Jason, 3 weeks after purchase.


I built the engine to spec.

I broke in the engine to MY heat cycle beliefs and to MY spec. Engine was in flawless condition. Perfect compression numbers across. No blow by. Night of street tune, we took it as high as ALMOST 12,000 RPM 3 times and all was holding strong for what it was built to do.

I built and installed the turbo kit to MY specs and to JASONs wishes of 600whp capable and 500whp Goal.

Matt street tuned the car for 5psi and is all he wanted to street tune for.
I suggested more to further work out kinks that will become present with high boost. It was getting late and we were both tired and hungry so, 5psi is all she saw for the street tune.

The next day, I did EVERYTHING i could to make sure the car was "sound" for the dyno. As in, if it BROKE id rather it break here so it could be fixed then 3 hours away on expensive dyno time.

BTW, FULL boost was at vtec engagement. 6,000 rpm on a 84AR turbine turbo. DAMN good for a 9.0:1 B16 if you ask me. Matt said the same. And BTW, this setup was for weekend drag days and Highway shit talk. Built to the exact specs of the customer.

Well Matt had boost cut at 15psi so knowing that, I pulled the Vac. off the waste gate to make sure no issues with the mechanics were an issue.

The setup spooled VERY fast to 15psi, building boost at 2k-3k and at Vtec hitting 15 and boost cut would hit at 6,000-6,500.

No charge pipe issues, no waste gate issues. Everything was a "GO" on my end for as much boost as Matts tune would allow me to test this car at.

I then pulled the transmission and installed Jasons stage5+ clutch kit w/ a friend (thanks spnamnt). Then 2 hours later, Jason picked the car up. Everything was perfect and ready for 500+ whp. Their is NO reason as to why it should'nt make 600whp either.


The 5psi spring has "NOTHING" to do with boost not going over 13psi.

I used a 7psi spring and held 27psi LIKE A ROCK on the same turbo and the same boost controller for 2 years. That MBC was a pain though and to get more boost you almost need to tighten it completely, which jason said Matt did not do, but did move it "alot" just not "all the way". Regardless it should have been swapped out immediately with a trusted controller for the tune session, which matt should keep with him for this purpose. (not knocking matt)

User error of boost controller OR LACK OF a boost controller is the WHOLE issue with this matter.

As for 3+ hours and 15 pulls... Thats an issue of the tuner being un-failure with his surroundings, slowing the session down.

The turbo broke because it sucked trash into it.



ANY MECHANICAL ISSUE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ADDRESSED BY ME AT THE DYNO IF THE ASSISTANCE WAS NEEDED. IN EXAMPLE: TROUBLESHOOTING BOOST ISSUE, CHANGE WASTE GATE SPRING, BUY MATT SHUE #1 COMBO AT WENDYS,

I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE RIDING WITH MATT BECAUSE I HAD NO RIDE TO NORRIS' SHOP OTHER THAN HIM. INSTEAD OF LETTING ME RIDE WITH HIM HE DIDNT PICK ME UP AND TOOK DUSTIN (DKXXXX) INSTEAD. THEREFORE I WASNT ABLE TO HELP MAKE THINGS GO SMOOTHER.

IF ANYONE IS AT FAULT, BL AIM ME. I SHOULD OWN AND HAVE A DRIVABLE CAR. IF I DID, THIS WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE TO MAKE SURE THIS CAR SAW ANY AMOUNT OF BOOST IT NEEDED.



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