Mike Duman Dealership in Suffolk, Va.
12-02-2010, 08:16 AM
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Re: Mike Duman Dealership in Suffolk, Va.
You, as a consumer, then purchase the used car from the ACME dealer for $25,000
You then find out that there is a "buyback" listed on the VIN number which now makes it worth 1/4 of the price.
How pissed would you be?????
How aggravated would you be?????
How used would you feel????
How Ripped off would you feel????
When a dealer purchases a car or cars from an auction and any of them are buybacks, they are informed of this as the vehicle as it is rolled out to be auctioned off.
He KNEW FULL WELL THIS WAS A BUYBACK!
You then find out that there is a "buyback" listed on the VIN number which now makes it worth 1/4 of the price.
How pissed would you be?????
How aggravated would you be?????
How used would you feel????
How Ripped off would you feel????
When a dealer purchases a car or cars from an auction and any of them are buybacks, they are informed of this as the vehicle as it is rolled out to be auctioned off.
He KNEW FULL WELL THIS WAS A BUYBACK!
12-02-2010, 08:45 AM
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Re: Mike Duman Dealership in Suffolk, Va.
You, as a consumer, then purchase the used car from the ACME dealer for $25,000
You then find out that there is a "buyback" listed on the VIN number which now makes it worth 1/4 of the price.
How pissed would you be?????
How aggravated would you be?????
How used would you feel????
How Ripped off would you feel????
When a dealer purchases a car or cars from an auction and any of them are buybacks, they are informed of this as the vehicle as it is rolled out to be auctioned off.
He KNEW FULL WELL THIS WAS A BUYBACK!
You then find out that there is a "buyback" listed on the VIN number which now makes it worth 1/4 of the price.
How pissed would you be?????
How aggravated would you be?????
How used would you feel????
How Ripped off would you feel????
When a dealer purchases a car or cars from an auction and any of them are buybacks, they are informed of this as the vehicle as it is rolled out to be auctioned off.
He KNEW FULL WELL THIS WAS A BUYBACK!
I would be pissed, but at myself most likely. Again, I will tell you for A FACT that when a vehicle is purchased at an auction, there is a likely chance the purchaser will never know why that car is there, or what the circumstances are around the car. The auction is not liable because they are providing a service, the purchaser is buying what they assume to be what they are looking at (a good used vehicle), and if anyone is liable, its the seller of the vehicle to begin with for not disclosing the fact it was a buyback car. That could be the finance company, the original selling dealer, or a wholesaler. I have bought cars before that were sold with a clean title, only to find out a week or so later when the title comes in that there is a lien or its branded. In that case, we went through arbitration and got the matter fixed. Of course, it usually happens on a good selling car that is literally already sold before the title comes.
They are required to maintain their records for 2 years by law for this reason.
I am not looking for something free.. I do not want to buy from there again. they broke the law. They knew the car was a buyback. He also charged me a used car price for a car that was used and was labeled BUYBACK. If he told me i still may have purchased it, but for not as much as i did.. Knowing full well i would not be able to get a decent trade in value when i did decide to trade it in.
Consumer Protection Act Violation
Title 59.1 of the Virginia Code, Chapter 17, Sections 196-207
"Promote fair and ethical standards for transactions between businesses and consumers. The law applies to the sale or lease of goods or services used for personal, family or household purposes. Businesses are prohibited from using deceit, misrepresentations or fraudulent acts and practices."
Virginia Lemon Law
Virginia Code, § 59.1-207.9 to 207.16:1
1-207.16:1 Disclosure of returned vehicles; penalty.
"b. It shall be the responsibility of the dealer that receives this disclosure to give notice of its contents to any prospective purchaser or lessee prior to sale or lease, and to transfer the disclosure, or a copy thereof, to the next purchaser or lessee. A dealer's responsibility under this section shall cease upon the sale or lease of the affected motor vehicle to the first purchaser or lessee not for resale or lease."
Consumer Protection Act Violation
Title 59.1 of the Virginia Code, Chapter 17, Sections 196-207
"Promote fair and ethical standards for transactions between businesses and consumers. The law applies to the sale or lease of goods or services used for personal, family or household purposes. Businesses are prohibited from using deceit, misrepresentations or fraudulent acts and practices."
Virginia Lemon Law
Virginia Code, § 59.1-207.9 to 207.16:1
1-207.16:1 Disclosure of returned vehicles; penalty.
"b. It shall be the responsibility of the dealer that receives this disclosure to give notice of its contents to any prospective purchaser or lessee prior to sale or lease, and to transfer the disclosure, or a copy thereof, to the next purchaser or lessee. A dealer's responsibility under this section shall cease upon the sale or lease of the affected motor vehicle to the first purchaser or lessee not for resale or lease."
12-02-2010, 08:53 AM
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I purchased on: 6/23/08
The car fax is showing it sat there for almost 6 months! I would think that would be long enough.
12-02-2010, 09:37 AM
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Re: Mike Duman Dealership in Suffolk, Va.
You, as a consumer, then purchase the used car from the ACME dealer for $25,000
You then find out that there is a "buyback" listed on the VIN number which now makes it worth 1/4 of the price.
How pissed would you be?????
How aggravated would you be?????
How used would you feel????
How Ripped off would you feel????
When a dealer purchases a car or cars from an auction and any of them are buybacks, they are informed of this as the vehicle as it is rolled out to be auctioned off.
He KNEW FULL WELL THIS WAS A BUYBACK!
You then find out that there is a "buyback" listed on the VIN number which now makes it worth 1/4 of the price.
How pissed would you be?????
How aggravated would you be?????
How used would you feel????
How Ripped off would you feel????
When a dealer purchases a car or cars from an auction and any of them are buybacks, they are informed of this as the vehicle as it is rolled out to be auctioned off.
He KNEW FULL WELL THIS WAS A BUYBACK!
12-02-2010, 12:09 PM
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Re: Mike Duman Dealership in Suffolk, Va.
Virginia Lemon Law
Virginia Code, § 59.1-207.9 to 207.16:1
1-207.16:1 Disclosure of returned vehicles; penalty.
A. If a motor vehicle that is returned to the manufacturer or distributor either under this chapter or by judgment, decree, or arbitration award in this or any other state and is then transferred by a manufacturer or distributor to a dealer, licensed under Chapter 15 (46.2-1500 et seq.) of Title 46.2, in Virginia, the manufacturer or distributor shall disclose this information to the Virginia dealer.
B. If the returned vehicle is then made available for resale or for another lease, the manufacturer shall, prior to sale or lease, disclose in writing in a clear and conspicuous manner, on a separate piece of paper in ten-point capital type, to the Virginia dealer that this motor vehicle was returned to the manufacturer, distributor or factory branch, the nature of the defect which resulted in the return, and the condition of the motor vehicle at the time of transfer to the Virginia dealer. It shall be the responsibility of the dealer that receives this disclosure to give notice of its contents to any prospective purchaser or lessee prior to sale or lease, and to transfer the disclosure, or a copy thereof, to the next purchaser or lessee. A dealer's responsibility under this section shall cease upon the sale or lease of the affected motor vehicle to the first purchaser or lessee not for resale or lease.
C. Any manufacturer or distributor who violates this section of the Motor Vehicle Warranty Enforcement Act shall be guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor.
Virginia Code, § 59.1-207.9 to 207.16:1
1-207.16:1 Disclosure of returned vehicles; penalty.
A. If a motor vehicle that is returned to the manufacturer or distributor either under this chapter or by judgment, decree, or arbitration award in this or any other state and is then transferred by a manufacturer or distributor to a dealer, licensed under Chapter 15 (46.2-1500 et seq.) of Title 46.2, in Virginia, the manufacturer or distributor shall disclose this information to the Virginia dealer.
B. If the returned vehicle is then made available for resale or for another lease, the manufacturer shall, prior to sale or lease, disclose in writing in a clear and conspicuous manner, on a separate piece of paper in ten-point capital type, to the Virginia dealer that this motor vehicle was returned to the manufacturer, distributor or factory branch, the nature of the defect which resulted in the return, and the condition of the motor vehicle at the time of transfer to the Virginia dealer. It shall be the responsibility of the dealer that receives this disclosure to give notice of its contents to any prospective purchaser or lessee prior to sale or lease, and to transfer the disclosure, or a copy thereof, to the next purchaser or lessee. A dealer's responsibility under this section shall cease upon the sale or lease of the affected motor vehicle to the first purchaser or lessee not for resale or lease.
C. Any manufacturer or distributor who violates this section of the Motor Vehicle Warranty Enforcement Act shall be guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor.
Consumer Protection Act Violation
Title 59.1 of the Virginia Code, Chapter 17, Sections 196-207
"Promote fair and ethical standards for transactions between businesses and consumers. The law applies to the sale or lease of goods or services used for personal, family or household purposes. Businesses are prohibited from using deceit, misrepresentations or fraudulent acts and practices."
Title 59.1 of the Virginia Code, Chapter 17, Sections 196-207
"Promote fair and ethical standards for transactions between businesses and consumers. The law applies to the sale or lease of goods or services used for personal, family or household purposes. Businesses are prohibited from using deceit, misrepresentations or fraudulent acts and practices."
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Consumer Protection Act Violation
Title 59.1 of the Virginia Code, Chapter 17, Sections 196-207
"Promote fair and ethical standards for transactions between businesses and consumers. The law applies to the sale or lease of goods or services used for personal, family or household purposes. Businesses are prohibited from using deceit, misrepresentations or fraudulent acts and practices."
Virginia Lemon Law
Virginia Code, § 59.1-207.9 to 207.16:1
1-207.16:1 Disclosure of returned vehicles; penalty.
"b. It shall be the responsibility of the dealer that receives this disclosure to give notice of its contents to any prospective purchaser or lessee prior to sale or lease, and to transfer the disclosure, or a copy thereof, to the next purchaser or lessee. A dealer's responsibility under this section shall cease upon the sale or lease of the affected motor vehicle to the first purchaser or lessee not for resale or lease."
Consumer Protection Act Violation
Title 59.1 of the Virginia Code, Chapter 17, Sections 196-207
"Promote fair and ethical standards for transactions between businesses and consumers. The law applies to the sale or lease of goods or services used for personal, family or household purposes. Businesses are prohibited from using deceit, misrepresentations or fraudulent acts and practices."
Virginia Lemon Law
Virginia Code, § 59.1-207.9 to 207.16:1
1-207.16:1 Disclosure of returned vehicles; penalty.
"b. It shall be the responsibility of the dealer that receives this disclosure to give notice of its contents to any prospective purchaser or lessee prior to sale or lease, and to transfer the disclosure, or a copy thereof, to the next purchaser or lessee. A dealer's responsibility under this section shall cease upon the sale or lease of the affected motor vehicle to the first purchaser or lessee not for resale or lease."
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12-02-2010, 12:25 PM
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Ahem.
Cause he's too busy posting it on the internet, cause thats how you resolve a dispute in a professional manner. Thats how they teach it at American International University, at least the business administration side of the school teaches that.
Case in point:
Spends several hours making a wordpress blog http://mikedumaninsuffolk.blogspot.com/ that is the info he posted on this site.
He makes posts on the dealers Facebook fan page, even going so far as to having one of his few friends post on their wall also.
http://www.facebook.com/MikeDumanAutoSales?v=wall
Then he spends hours researching and copying specific codes of VA, instead of just hiring a lawyer. IF there was a solid case, most lawyers would jump at this suit, with little to no retainer required.
I will stop there, but I am sure if someone wants to be a dick they can do some simple Facestalking to REALLY make fun of this dude
12-02-2010, 08:35 PM
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so breh has a blog and has no photo's on it? no dreams of being VADRIVEN professional photographer? pizza hut by day, awesome cool blogger, photographer know it all by night? this can't be life, breh has to be from another galaxy.
only solution here is to go on a killing rampage, shot and kill everyone. and burn the place down.. trees, poles, squids and police k-9's are the real fucking victims in this world. shoulda got the lube ready even walking on a dealers lot breh, new/used car salesmen give me the creeps, massive homo, jail rapist vibe.
only solution here is to go on a killing rampage, shot and kill everyone. and burn the place down.. trees, poles, squids and police k-9's are the real fucking victims in this world. shoulda got the lube ready even walking on a dealers lot breh, new/used car salesmen give me the creeps, massive homo, jail rapist vibe.