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Old 09-27-2009, 07:41 PM
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Default vtec doesnt pull, just hits and doesnt go....

i have a poor man type r i just got done rebuilding and i have a chipped ecu,
but when vtec hits its a smooth cross over, but doesnt pull like its spouse to. ive been told i need a tune b.c i have stg2 cams and that im not getting correct fuel sent out?

it does pull good from 1000rpm-5600rpm, then vtec just studdards and acts retarded...idk maybe yall do

btw no check engine. and i clean out the vtec solenoid

thanks

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Old 09-27-2009, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: vtec doesnt pull, just hits and doesnt go....

May be a dumb question, but is this your first time driving a car with vtec? Its not like hitting nos or anything you know...

just stating the obvious first, dont kill me haha
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Old 09-27-2009, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: vtec doesnt pull, just hits and doesnt go....

Did it have a greater effect to it before the rebuild?
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You need a tune on it. It will run like you expect it to.
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: vtec doesnt pull, just hits and doesnt go....

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You need a tune on it. It will run like you expect it to.
I would have to agree. Also your cams may need to be degreed in, if it hasn't been done already.
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Old 09-28-2009, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: vtec doesnt pull, just hits and doesnt go....

If you have a chipped ECU, the VTEC crossover RPM might be lower than stock, which will tend to make VTEC engage without as much drama. That isn't a bad thing. Stock VTEC engagement is fairly high RPM so it won't engage under normal conditions unless you purposely get up into that RPM range. What that means though is that the power drops off on the non-VTEC set of cam lobes, and then picks back up when the more aggressive VTEC cam lobes engage. Anyway, if you lower the engagement RPM, the non-VTEC power won't fall off as much before VTEC engages, so the transition doesn't feel as big. If VTEC engagement is set from low cam and high cam dyno graphs, it's possible to set it so that it's barely even perceptible.
That may have nothing at all to do with your problem, but it's a possible explanation if you already have a chipped ECU and don't know what the program modifications are.
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Old 09-28-2009, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: vtec doesnt pull, just hits and doesnt go....

Originally Posted by Fabrik8
If you have a chipped ECU, the VTEC crossover RPM might be lower than stock, which will tend to make VTEC engage without as much drama. That isn't a bad thing. Stock VTEC engagement is fairly high RPM so it won't engage under normal conditions unless you purposely get up into that RPM range. What that means though is that the power drops off on the non-VTEC set of cam lobes, and then picks back up when the more aggressive VTEC cam lobes engage. Anyway, if you lower the engagement RPM, the non-VTEC power won't fall off as much before VTEC engages, so the transition doesn't feel as big. If VTEC engagement is set from low cam and high cam dyno graphs, it's possible to set it so that it's barely even perceptible.
That may have nothing at all to do with your problem, but it's a possible explanation if you already have a chipped ECU and don't know what the program modifications are.
Well put.
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Default Re: vtec doesnt pull, just hits and doesnt go....

Originally Posted by atmdc
May be a dumb question, but is this your first time driving a car with vtec? Its not like hitting nos or anything you know...

just stating the obvious first, dont kill me haha
no this is like my 20th, im just going to get it tuned, and see what happens

thanks Fabrik8 for your posts and knowledge about hondas is bery niceee... and much appreciated

any recomindations on injectors i can use with out a resistor box? i was thinking maybe like some type-s injectors?
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Default Re: vtec doesnt pull, just hits and doesnt go....

[QUOTE=Fabrik8;5677348]If VTEC engagement is set from low cam and high cam dyno graphs, it's possible to set it so that it's barely even perceptible.
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Which is how it should be, on a properly tuned car it is barely even heard or felt if at all.
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Default Re: vtec doesnt pull, just hits and doesnt go....

What injectors are you using now; you're apparently not using 1992+ Honda injectors if you're using a resistor box...? That begs the question of why you're not using stock Honda injectors if you have a naturally aspirated engine with some slightly more aggressive cams..? You should have plenty of flow for that setup I'd imagine.

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