Notices
Tech Talk Anything technically related to your vehicle should be posted here. If you're looking to have work done, try one of the Regional Forums.

96 JDM B18C doesn't use o2 Sensors???

Thread Tools
 
Old 10-22-2014, 12:51 PM
  #11  
ConflictedFelon
 
jarrett2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: gretna, va
Posts: 4,383
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
jarrett2k jarrett2k jarrett2k jarrett2k jarrett2k jarrett2k jarrett2k jarrett2k jarrett2k jarrett2k jarrett2k
Default Re: 96 JDM B18C doesn't use o2 Sensors???

Maybe I'm just wrong about the year. But it's in an EF Hatch, no o2. and it's the JDM spec
jarrett2k is offline  
Old 10-22-2014, 01:50 PM
  #12  
Racetracks
 
Fabrik8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: How long is a piece of string?
Posts: 15,668
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8
Default Re: 96 JDM B18C doesn't use o2 Sensors???

Originally Posted by jarrett2k
Maybe I'm just wrong about the year. But it's in an EF Hatch, no o2. and it's the JDM spec
That would mean open loop fueling from the factory. Doesn't happen.
Fabrik8 is offline  
Old 10-26-2014, 06:08 PM
  #13  
TurboPipingSystems
 
thermal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: USDM Land, Va Bch
Posts: 1,483
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
thermal thermal thermal thermal thermal thermal thermal thermal thermal thermal thermal
Default Re: 96 JDM B18C doesn't use o2 Sensors???

are you running an aftermarket ECU? You have to have at least one O2 sensor if you are running an OBD1 ECU. I had a 98 JDM ITR motor as well which came with an OEM ECU. It was OBD2 and looked for 2 sensors. Either way, OBD1 or OBD2 will throw a CEL code if no O2 signal is sensed. It is not going to calculate your air/fuel ratio without it. You'd be on limp mode all day...
thermal is offline  
Old 11-14-2014, 12:51 AM
  #14  
Full Access Member
 
H22Boost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
H22Boost has disabled reputation
Default Re: 96 JDM B18C doesn't use o2 Sensors???

my friend ran his b16 with no o2 sensors and it really was no difference just check engine light was on but it wasnt in limp mode or nothing. prolly get worse gas milage tho.
H22Boost is offline  
Old 11-19-2014, 06:34 PM
  #15  
Registered member
 
time2op3nsh0p's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
time2op3nsh0p has disabled reputation
Default Re: 96 JDM B18C doesn't use o2 Sensors???

get a ECU tune for no o2 sensors. What computer you running? You should definitily run 1 o2 sensor though. I think your mechanic might be confused
time2op3nsh0p is offline  
Old 11-19-2014, 07:11 PM
  #16  
Racetracks
 
Fabrik8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: How long is a piece of string?
Posts: 15,668
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8
Default Re: 96 JDM B18C doesn't use o2 Sensors???

Originally Posted by time2op3nsh0p
get a ECU tune for no o2 sensors.
That's a bad idea. Running permanently in open-loop mode has a large amount of compromises...
Fabrik8 is offline  
Old 11-26-2014, 03:26 PM
  #17  
Registered member
 
HypeRHatch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
HypeRHatch has disabled reputation
Default Re: 96 JDM B18C doesn't use o2 Sensors???

To the OP, in Japan the emissions is completely different than here. In this case using an OBD2A ECU will require the use of 2 Oxygen Sensors. If you want to be emissions friendly i recommend utilizing the OEM Header or Aftermarket header with the Bank1 Sensor 1 Bung. To have th second oxygen sensor you will need a OBD2a-OBD2b Civic Catalytic Converter 96-00 EX/99-00 Si which will have the converter after the header unlike the LX,HX,DX that have them on the manifold from the factory (D16y7).

Now if your using a JDM OBD2a P73 I believe you can get away with running just the one sensor it is mapped for since they do not use converters.
Like a couple people mentioned before me it all comes down to what ECU you are running.

Most Hondas now use a conversion harness and revert to OBD1 to expand chipping or using Hondata, Uberdata, Chrome, etc etc which in any case can be adjusted and have sensors turned off completely like Fabrik8 mentioned.
HypeRHatch is offline  
Old 11-26-2014, 03:43 PM
  #18  
Racetracks
 
Fabrik8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: How long is a piece of string?
Posts: 15,668
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8 Fabrik8
Default Re: 96 JDM B18C doesn't use o2 Sensors???

No, you don't want to turn the O2 sensor feedback off. You don't want to run open loop on a street car, period. Too many compromises.
Fabrik8 is offline  
Old 11-26-2014, 08:00 PM
  #19  
Derp Status
 
MoarLow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Alexandria
Posts: 1,305
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
MoarLow MoarLow MoarLow MoarLow MoarLow MoarLow MoarLow MoarLow MoarLow MoarLow MoarLow
Default

I had a 99 LX civic at one point. I looked into the b-series/vtec d-series swap and even with swapping the engine harness you won't get the engine running as it should like factory. You'd have to also replace the interior harness to add the O2 wiring in the ex/si stock location. Adding to the running in open loop issue, you'll be running rich all the time in open loop. Your fuel trims will be crap. That'd be the best solution to your problem. Another would be just getting a ex/si shell.

Last edited by MoarLow; 11-26-2014 at 08:03 PM.
MoarLow is offline  




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:44 PM.