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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by spic
PS. - Of the three, I dumped 2. kthx.
Shut up no you didn't

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Is this thread about Cobras? F150s? GM trucks? No.
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I had a Thunderbird with ~210k miles on it, larger tires on the rear (245 KDW's, and 245 Pirellis, in place of the stocker 215's, since I guess the brand of the tire is an acceptable excuse for breaking?), 22psi, and full exhaust. Stock engine, stock trans, stock rear.
Is this thread about a fucking t-bird
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No.
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You told me to try 'knocking' on Bandits car. I told you my personal experience with it.
How long have you known Jackie? Actually how long have you been around his car. Since the 90's? Think not stfu idiot. How can you argue the reliability of it from your personal experiences that have only been for a short while?

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since I guess the brand of the tire is an acceptable excuse for breaking.
Dude, wtf don't you understand about tires? Obviously you are just a moron. Say we have 4 wheels that can spin.... still with me, good. Now throw in some "sticky" tires with tough sidewalls... don't let me lose you here. Now, when we take 5,000-6,000 RPM launches on all 4 wheels with sticky tires... there is gonna be a major stress point at another location other than the sidewalls. Therefore, broken axles occur, broken t-cases, broken tranny's, broken rear diff's. Never seen a hond break an axle

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Stock engine, stock trans, stock rear.
Ok so was Bandit's... what is your point? How many DSM's are on the road compared to your shitpile Turbo T-bird?
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:32 AM
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Is this thread about a fucking t-bird
You brought up high-mileage reliability, so yes, you made it about cars that are reliable with 200k+ miles on them. I've owned one. Jackie hasn't.

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How long have you known Jackie? Actually how long have you been around his car. Since the 90's? Think not stfu idiot. How can you argue the reliability of it from your personal experiences that have only been for a short while?
I'm sorry I know more about that car than you thought. My bad? Who cares how it acted in the '90's. Is Chris going to go back in time and buy a brand new DSM?

Originally Posted by Hybrid AWD
Dude, wtf don't you understand about tires? Obviously you are just a moron. Say we have 4 wheels that can spin.... still with me, good. Now throw in some "sticky" tires with tough sidewalls... don't let me lose you here. Now, when we take 5,000-6,000 RPM launches on all 4 wheels with sticky tires... there is gonna be a major stress point at another location other than the sidewalls. Therefore, broken axles occur, broken t-cases, broken tranny's, broken rear diff's. Never seen a hond break an axle
.. ok, and? They broke. That's the fucking point.

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Ok so was Bandit's... what is your point?
.. My Tbird didn't shatter clutches and axles 'cause it had stickier and larger tires? (Might I add, when we took it apart, it was the stock clutch from 1988)

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How many DSM's are on the road compared to your shitpile Turbo T-bird?
I hope all the DSM's on the road will compare, since my Tbird isn't on the road. I sold the entire drivetrain. (Drivetrain being everything that has power moving through it, you know, the stuff that breaks on a DSM)

You brought up Jackie's car, I proved you wrong. You brought up that it was high-mileage, and I corrected your wrong. Is there anything else you'd like to bring up? You told me to NAME TEH CARZ!!1, and I did. Did you think I didn't actually know anyone with a broken DSM? Are you kidding me?
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 05:58 AM
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Yeah this is a car forum FR3SHT0D3F...but you are asking questions that have been asked numerous times on other dsm boards. All I know is that if you are to lazy to search other boards for information about typical problems found in dsm's then you shouldn't even think about buying one. Good luck though...hope it goes good for you!
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:22 AM
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.If I were a mod, id warn both of you for being stupid.
Hypocrite.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:30 AM
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.. My Tbird didn't shatter clutches and axles 'cause it had stickier and larger tires? (Might I add, when we took it apart, it was the stock clutch from 1988)


Your a fugging moron you realize that? You know why awd breaks drivetrain pieces all the time? Becuase in your shitty t-bird you launch and get just a little bit of wheelspin which reduces stress cuz the power and stres is let out the tires in the spinning. however AWD hooks the shit up and has no wheelspin so all that stress and power hits the drivetrain. However there is something called "pre-loading" the drivetrain for awd which a lot of owners dont know to do and therefore the shatter the clutches.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:34 AM
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Your a fugging moron you realize that? You know why awd breaks drivetrain pieces all the time? Becuase in your shitty t-bird you launch and get just a little bit of wheelspin which reduces stress cuz the power and stres is let out the tires in the spinning. however AWD hooks the shit up and has no wheelspin so all that stress and power hits the drivetrain. However there is something called "pre-loading" the drivetrain for awd which a lot of owners dont know to do and therefore the shatter the clutches.
So what you're saying is that not only do DSMs have shitty, easy-to-break transmissions, but also a majority of their owners don't know how to drive?
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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Your a fugging moron you realize that? You know why awd breaks drivetrain pieces all the time? Becuase in your shitty t-bird you launch and get just a little bit of wheelspin which reduces stress cuz the power and stres is let out the tires in the spinning. however AWD hooks the shit up and has no wheelspin so all that stress and power hits the drivetrain. However there is something called "pre-loading" the drivetrain for awd which a lot of owners dont know to do and therefore the shatter the clutches.
So what you're attempting to say is that broken axles and trannys are in some way "acceptable" because the car is AWD?

One of the guys in this thread shattered 3rd gear. Blame that on AWD.

Shut the fuck up.

Edit: I'm honestly AMAZED at how butt-hurt you DSM kids get about Mitsubishi's reliability. For the record: I'm currently driving a car with a Mitsubishi drivetrain, and it's running just fine.

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So what you're attempting to say is that broken axles and trannys are in some way "acceptable" because the car is AWD?

One of the guys in this thread shattered 3rd gear. Blame that on AWD.

Shut the fuck up.

Edit: I'm honestly AMAZED at how butt-hurt you DSM kids get about Mitsubishi's reliability. For the record: I'm currently driving a car with a Mitsubishi drivetrain, and it's running just fine.
Thats it, I'm selling my car and buying a Thunderbird. I can't believe I drove this piece of shit for 4 years. What was I thinking.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 08:54 AM
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Hypocrite.
I apologize, Spic is just a complete moron, now I get to go back and try to help him understand the logic of tires...
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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You brought up high-mileage reliability, so yes, you made it about cars that are reliable with 200k+ miles on them.
So if I made it about cars that are reliable... then why did you say this?
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Is this thread about Cobras? F150s? GM trucks? No.
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My Tbird didn't shatter clutches and axles 'cause it had stickier and larger tires?
Let's think about this for a second since you are a car wize. Larger tires = more side wall, more side wall usually means it will flex when launching. Now where did I say Jackie added height to his tires? No where, So with the same sidewall there is less flex and when there is so much traction, there will be more of a drivetrain shock.
Second of all you are trying to compare a IRS vs. Solid Axle...


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You brought up Jackie's car, I proved you wrong.
Where did you do that? You want to brag about your clutch being original so was Jackies.
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You brought up that it was high-mileage, and I corrected your wrong.
WTF are you trying to say here?
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Is there anything else you'd like to bring up?
How about you are a tool and have 0 knowledge on how shit works.



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