Wow! I just read both sides of the story and this is tricky....I mean feel where the customer is coming from but I also feel where the shop is coming from. The question is "Who is liable though"??

 

Update: After working on the Evo today here is what we have.....

1. The wheels as stated were overtightened. (basically someone stood on the lugs .) Promotion since saying did not use the special lug remover i gave them upon dropping of my car.(since have lost it) used a 17mm socket to put them on. Stripped the lug pattern and we checked after trying to uninstall them once torque was OVER 250ft/lbs. As checked with a torque wrench. We as of working on trying to get them off have tried the following.....since u CANT use a 17mm socket on lugs that are special fitment size not allowing a regular size to be used we had to first try an impact gun and Craftsmen Loc Outs to remove them. This did not work except we did manage to break2 of them. We used huge amounts of penatrating spray on the lugs where we could get it into to aid in the help.
This is what i get for having promotion not follow directions and do it whatever way they felt like. Then again after being frustrated at the car, and myself and my shop as they show in there posting.....this is what i got for it......Notice the paint damage, thread damage?
Now the wheel must be dissasembled by pulling the control arms off the suspension off, all while the wheel is ON the car! Then i have to take both front wheel assemblies to the machine shop to have the studs DRILLED out of my 2500.00 wheels! At the cost of between 400 and 500 bucks.


This is the culprit of the oil damage done to the interior of the trunk and paint damage done to the rear trunk cage.......(oil pan 1.5 qts full and new damaged pistons.)

And last but not least.....the BOX , after specifically telling them to be careful with the parts and everything was to be carfully placed individually and kept organized and trash bagged in the car this is how i got all my nuts, bolts, and brand new parts put in my back seat. Again with oil all over the rear seat.


BUT WAIT, just like a poor infomercial THERE IS MORE!
As i am trying to dissasemble the whole wheel assembly on the pass side under the car i look up......The main oil line to the filter is CUT, not RIPPED but CUT from something......you can see it in the last pic.

Now shop or not, would u want this crap to happen to your car? Yeah Promotion you just keep bashing me. Because every day i work on our shop Evo.....Is another day your giving me to find one more thing wrong with your workmanship. Do you think they told me about this? Nope they didnt. Yet something else they failed to mention.

People think i should be held accountable for this stuff? ....Yeah i dont think so.

Jey Morris

 

If i didnt have to pay out almost 8 k for this entire mishap paying for my lawyer to contact them would be really easy.

But then again SOMETHING was messed up and Promotion knew it, as James stated......"we knew this was coming"

Jey Morris

 

Sir:
The reasons for the tech quitting, as mentioned in this theard, were for other reasons, definitely not this engine build nor the evo project at all. Chris's work was double checked before the motor was assembled. Also the damage was done to the head and not because of bottom end assembly. Chris is in no way reliable for the engine failure. The engine failure has been concluded to be because of a failed tensioner.

In regards to the throwout bearing. When you purchase a clutch, the clutch will usually come with a new TO Bearing. Since the customer was NOT replacing the clutch, it was simply being removed to send the motor to the machine shop, no bearing was provided. I am not the tech but to my knowledge you cannot determine if a TO Bearing is bad or not before installing it. The bearings on the Evos can easily be damaged upon removing them from the Clutch fork without knowledge to the installer. This is why every shop I am aware of suggests to replace the TO Bearing at the time of install. My shop personally has done 5 Evo CLutch installs within the last 45 days and no customer had a concern of getting a $52 Mitsubishi OEM part except Jey Morris. This is understood when he couldnt afford the $90 bearings for the Mains and Rods...

I have tried to keep all posts to Jey directly on DCEVOClub.com.... as its apparent he likes to cut and paste to every forum to get his words seen instead of trying to resolve the issue.

Thanks
James

 

The point was that everyone was commenting without knowing the full story. Again, I'm not calling him a liar necessarily, just stating there are things that were conveniently left out. I am not an employee and am only a friend of the employees, thus I remain neutral, and as a non-employee it is not my place at all to get in the middle of this. I only know the parts that I witnessed, while I was there to tune other cars. and to exchange tools/parts with people. The issues are between Jey and the shop, and do not have anything to do with me. I am just leveling the field a bit and giving everyone a heads up on what Jey is all about. Again, while I am a friend and business partner to the shop, I had nothing to do with jey's car so it is a matter that does not concern me, it is between the shop and jey. I cannot comment or take a side on what I did not witness. I will leave that to the techs that worked on the car, as they are perfectly capable of telling their side if they feel the need to do so.

However, I feel it is important in any case such as this that people fully know both sides of the story. People outside of the DC area DSM community aren't really familiar with how jey works and how he is a con-artist.

 

...your car is blue, the car in those pictures is red.

 

personally, i think both sides sound sketchy. mainly poor communication to begin with. of course everyones going to try to cover their ass, but neither of their storys match, and both of you aren't arguing over the same points, or at least the ones that matter, or ones you can do something about.

i've been a general manager of a body shop for a while now, and i've had a run in with customers that claim poor service and all that shit. and yea, i can make it sound pretty damn good on my behalf. which, pro-motions response sounds like.

its not my place to say if they really are bad or not, i've never had an experiance with them. but sounds like things were going wrong from the get go, from BOTH sides. in the end though, that little paper you signed giving authorization to work and shit, just saves the shop. from what it sounds like with your outstanding bill among other things, you don't have shit for court. ultimately i hope things get worked out for the best. if not, that sucks.

 

Yes dave is a friend of the shops and bitter because i was kicked off Team Trinity. Yes a while back ago some major incedent happened with a death in the family and sickness. I had a client of mine buy a part and well that has NOTHING to do with what is going on but if you feel like wasteing time on reading a resolved issue from like 5 months ago, dave left the link in a previous post.

I only had a problem paying for a TOB 52 dollar part only because i didnt understand how u messed the old one up. Ive installed many clutches on evos and most of them can still use the one that is in there after visual inspection is done.

First you say there was oil on the Belt and not because the belt was installed wrong? Where exactly was the motor oil coming from? as far as i know if a motor is installed correctly there shouldnt be any oil on the outside of the motor correct?

As far as the Tensioner and pulley failure go, or whatever your gonna tell me next made it blow up.....i have a 3rd party specialist working on seeing what was the cause of the engine failure.....one of the problems i see is whoever put the head together used BOTH the stock and FERREA keepers....too much pressure on the head may have caused it to jump? or maybe cause the belt was put on maybe from taking it off 5 times to correct a problem that wasnt done right the first time caused the excessive use of a part failing......not to mention the bolt on the tensioner pulley was stripped down as well.........

There is just a few things to think about.....if you run out of excuses i will have and answer to why the motor actually failed in due time. So I ask that we get started in resolveing these problems, i have had many problems posted for 2 days now and still no resolve. Ill be waiting for an answer or Monies as u put it.

thanks,
Jey Morris

****i merely cut and paste some stuff to make sure everyone is getting answes from both sides. Thanks.

I had no problem buying bearings stop trying to make me sound like i dont know anything about these cars. Other than this im the only one to do work on that car besides one other company for sponsorship.

Get to what you should be doing James/Promotion and fix these problems. And for god sake stop bashing me. I bow down to the greater person just fix these issues and stop trying to push all the blame on me. I got a life to get back to. All i want is my car problems that you caused to be fixed. Im not really asking for something i shouldnt be.

What i really dont get James, if Chris had put in his 2 weeks and you KNEW he was leaving why would u have him work on my car? especially if he was the only one that knew anything about evos? Only to leave it to trying to find someone to work on the car that doesnt?

 

In the shops behalf...... if that would work? how would you explain 4 keepers in a retainer? It only uses 2 stock and its a machined piece?? So your saying the 2 stock keepers AND the 2 ferrea keepers were used?

 

Hey Chris, yeah no i was going off of when i spoke with FERREA directly, i will have to get back to you on this. They had told me there have been screw up instances in the past where shops have install both theres and stock and it put too much pressure on the valvetrain. If you would like i will double check hopefully tomorrow if i have time between vehicles and double check that for you.

The result of me asking FERREA came because James had told me the cause of the timing belt failure could have been caused by the springs and retainers.

Thanks,
Jey Morris