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Nah, tune was done a month ago. I was at Adrenaline practically all day. Wherever you got your information from it wasn't me or Marcus.
I can see how people would think it's unfair. Here's what it comes down to.
-I tuned the car on crome, Matt tuned it on neptune. I couldn't even look at Matt's map if I wanted to , mine was from scratch.
-Marcus' car put down the same power since Matt tuned it, and we havn't even checked for boost leaks since. the car remains untouched.
*the car made 432 on the dyno day, previously it made 422 and 451 (422+451)/2=436.5, and take into account it was hotter out than when matt tuned it.
-I wanted Matt's tune to go first, I got the short end of the stick on that with the heatsoak. Keeping that in mind, I even detuned it before the run.
-My tune was compared to the 'Cadillac' of tunes. The, what, $350-500 Adrenaline Autoworks/Matt shue dyno tune.
for the record. I'm not trying to stir anything up. Just bring my name up, from where adrenaline has attempted to drag it through the mud. I like to think my work speaks for itself.
Matt, thanks for being a good sport.
Pip, I know you were expecting me to make an ass out of myself, thanks for having me.
I can see how people would think it's unfair. Here's what it comes down to.
-I tuned the car on crome, Matt tuned it on neptune. I couldn't even look at Matt's map if I wanted to , mine was from scratch.
-Marcus' car put down the same power since Matt tuned it, and we havn't even checked for boost leaks since. the car remains untouched.
*the car made 432 on the dyno day, previously it made 422 and 451 (422+451)/2=436.5, and take into account it was hotter out than when matt tuned it.
-I wanted Matt's tune to go first, I got the short end of the stick on that with the heatsoak. Keeping that in mind, I even detuned it before the run.
-My tune was compared to the 'Cadillac' of tunes. The, what, $350-500 Adrenaline Autoworks/Matt shue dyno tune.
for the record. I'm not trying to stir anything up. Just bring my name up, from where adrenaline has attempted to drag it through the mud. I like to think my work speaks for itself.
Matt, thanks for being a good sport.
Pip, I know you were expecting me to make an ass out of myself, thanks for having me.

Also just so people know looking at my maps would be pointless...fuel values from neptune won't work in crome and neither will the timing values. The actual timing output between the two programs is completely different.
Also cars will make similar dyno numbers in hot and cold weather on our dyno. All numbers are SAE corrected. With all things being equal on the car it will produce similar results.
As for the "cadilac" of tunes....if you are referring to the pricing then i don't really see where you get that. I don't see too many shops charging less than $350 for a full obd1 dyno tune.
Anyways...Like I said I think a shootout with different shops/tuners bringing their own cars to compete against eachother would be more fun.
I never said any of Scott's tunes were unsafe or that he in any way tunes unsafe. What I said was that he didn't tune the car to an unsafe level nor does he tune any car to that point.
Not stir anything up? Lol. Your intentions were to pretty much make me look bad. I could post up stuff that makes you look bad too, but i'm not and never have done that. Just because a car makes more power on one tune versus another doesn't mean its a "better" tune. I'm not saying yours is bad, but seeing who makes the bigger peak numbers isn't the way to do it and you and I both know things would be more fair if the car was tuned on the same day....even though its pretty hard to keep conditions constant so thats the battle is pretty pointless anyways...like you said heat soak among other things. I'm not saying your tune is unsafe or anything like that...although you should probably tell your friends not to publically say that 
Also just so people know looking at my maps would be pointless...fuel values from neptune won't work in crome and neither will the timing values. The actual timing output between the two programs is completely different.
Also cars will make similar dyno numbers in hot and cold weather on our dyno. All numbers are SAE corrected. With all things being equal on the car it will produce similar results.
As for the "cadilac" of tunes....if you are referring to the pricing then i don't really see where you get that. I don't see too many shops charging less than $350 for a full obd1 dyno tune.
Anyways...Like I said I think a shootout with different shops/tuners bringing their own cars to compete against eachother would be more fun.

Also just so people know looking at my maps would be pointless...fuel values from neptune won't work in crome and neither will the timing values. The actual timing output between the two programs is completely different.
Also cars will make similar dyno numbers in hot and cold weather on our dyno. All numbers are SAE corrected. With all things being equal on the car it will produce similar results.
As for the "cadilac" of tunes....if you are referring to the pricing then i don't really see where you get that. I don't see too many shops charging less than $350 for a full obd1 dyno tune.
Anyways...Like I said I think a shootout with different shops/tuners bringing their own cars to compete against eachother would be more fun.

My friend was only stating that I would NOT tune a car to the point of being unsafe.
I'm saying he didn't tune the car to just make loads of power at the risk of it being an unsafe tune.
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Hey Scott,
Thanks for coming to the shop, and making this happen. To be honest I already talked to Marcus about this... I expected for the car to make lower numbers, due to the fact the it was street tuned and that keeblers fully built b16 you tuned made 116hp then blew up.(correct me if I'm wrong, going of words of mouth)
I fully agree that it was not fair due to many reasons. But it made for a great night of exictement for everybody... I already said, we need one car, same day, look at all the factors of the tune. And see what's up. You already agreed to this, so did Matt. Let's make it happen.
As far as making you look like an asshat? You're doing that to yourself now I think... Our prices our very reasonable IMO.
Also didn't you rent a dyno to make sure you would put out higher numbers?? Once again just want to clarify.
Once again, thanks for coming out... Made a great night become even better. This is what Richmond has been lacking for quite some time. Some god damn competition!!! And shit talking !! Let's Put something together...
Thanks for coming to the shop, and making this happen. To be honest I already talked to Marcus about this... I expected for the car to make lower numbers, due to the fact the it was street tuned and that keeblers fully built b16 you tuned made 116hp then blew up.(correct me if I'm wrong, going of words of mouth)
I fully agree that it was not fair due to many reasons. But it made for a great night of exictement for everybody... I already said, we need one car, same day, look at all the factors of the tune. And see what's up. You already agreed to this, so did Matt. Let's make it happen.
As far as making you look like an asshat? You're doing that to yourself now I think... Our prices our very reasonable IMO.
Also didn't you rent a dyno to make sure you would put out higher numbers?? Once again just want to clarify.
Once again, thanks for coming out... Made a great night become even better. This is what Richmond has been lacking for quite some time. Some god damn competition!!! And shit talking !! Let's Put something together...
Scott, Matt.... I think you too need some alone time. take each other out to dinner and then have some ruff one on one man loves. lol. or that sensual shit. I'm not here to judge. I mean it is the next millia its ok to be gay. just isnt my thing.
now back to topic.. I just made ya'll niaggaz be like wtf and lawlz.
now back to topic.. I just made ya'll niaggaz be like wtf and lawlz.
Hey Scott,
Thanks for coming to the shop, and making this happen. To be honest I already talked to Marcus about this... I expected for the car to make lower numbers, due to the fact the it was street tuned and that keeblers fully built b16 you tuned made 116hp then blew up.(correct me if I'm wrong, going of words of mouth)
I fully agree that it was not fair due to many reasons. But it made for a great night of exictement for everybody... I already said, we need one car, same day, look at all the factors of the tune. And see what's up. You already agreed to this, so did Matt. Let's make it happen.
As far as making you look like an asshat? You're doing that to yourself now I think... Our prices our very reasonable IMO.
Also didn't you rent a dyno to make sure you would put out higher numbers?? Once again just want to clarify.
Once again, thanks for coming out... Made a great night become even better. This is what Richmond has been lacking for quite some time. Some god damn competition!!! And shit talking !! Let's Put something together...
Thanks for coming to the shop, and making this happen. To be honest I already talked to Marcus about this... I expected for the car to make lower numbers, due to the fact the it was street tuned and that keeblers fully built b16 you tuned made 116hp then blew up.(correct me if I'm wrong, going of words of mouth)
I fully agree that it was not fair due to many reasons. But it made for a great night of exictement for everybody... I already said, we need one car, same day, look at all the factors of the tune. And see what's up. You already agreed to this, so did Matt. Let's make it happen.
As far as making you look like an asshat? You're doing that to yourself now I think... Our prices our very reasonable IMO.
Also didn't you rent a dyno to make sure you would put out higher numbers?? Once again just want to clarify.
Once again, thanks for coming out... Made a great night become even better. This is what Richmond has been lacking for quite some time. Some god damn competition!!! And shit talking !! Let's Put something together...
I'm not bashing your prices either. I'm just saying it's a David vs. Goliath battle.
For the record yes we did rent out a dyno, Matt's numbers were revealed after I had finished tuning to what I thought was the safe limit.
I definately agree on the competition!
Last edited by hottscennessey; Aug 31, 2009 at 09:37 AM.
Hey Scott,
Thanks for coming to the shop, and making this happen. To be honest I already talked to Marcus about this... I expected for the car to make lower numbers, due to the fact the it was street tuned and that keeblers fully built b16 you tuned made 116hp then blew up.(correct me if I'm wrong, going of words of mouth)
I fully agree that it was not fair due to many reasons. But it made for a great night of exictement for everybody... I already said, we need one car, same day, look at all the factors of the tune. And see what's up. You already agreed to this, so did Matt. Let's make it happen.
As far as making you look like an asshat? You're doing that to yourself now I think... Our prices our very reasonable IMO.
Also didn't you rent a dyno to make sure you would put out higher numbers?? Once again just want to clarify.
Once again, thanks for coming out... Made a great night become even better. This is what Richmond has been lacking for quite some time. Some god damn competition!!! And shit talking !! Let's Put something together...
Thanks for coming to the shop, and making this happen. To be honest I already talked to Marcus about this... I expected for the car to make lower numbers, due to the fact the it was street tuned and that keeblers fully built b16 you tuned made 116hp then blew up.(correct me if I'm wrong, going of words of mouth)
I fully agree that it was not fair due to many reasons. But it made for a great night of exictement for everybody... I already said, we need one car, same day, look at all the factors of the tune. And see what's up. You already agreed to this, so did Matt. Let's make it happen.
As far as making you look like an asshat? You're doing that to yourself now I think... Our prices our very reasonable IMO.
Also didn't you rent a dyno to make sure you would put out higher numbers?? Once again just want to clarify.
Once again, thanks for coming out... Made a great night become even better. This is what Richmond has been lacking for quite some time. Some god damn competition!!! And shit talking !! Let's Put something together...
was that scott's or seans tune? hmm theres many stories to the motor letting loose. even stories i have heard about some questionable cams that the customer bought. Even tho he was advised not too.
somebody narc'ed me out. the cops came to my house and disrespected my family. I think it was j00. lmao. "joking"
wondering if kyle or anyone from rpm came or called after you invited em. lmao.
this thread is strating to make just as much sense as:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgWn7zbgxZ4
ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ahhhhhh!
no homo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgWn7zbgxZ4
ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ahhhhhh!
no homo!
the head to head I saw as entertainment purposes only
anyone worth their salt in the realm knows that WOT / dyno is not the measure of a tuner.. neither of these guys should be glorified or damned based on the outcome.
-gimmie a good cold start up, or a hot restart
-lemme see what happens when i turn on the a/c
-how bout the mileage.. did it go all to hell or improve?
-does it make it down the track?
me personally i'd have just turned up the boost, its way more fun than fooling with tables
..set the a/f to 11 then timing to 15 and turn up the GD boost
now something remotely interesting would be seeing these guys strategies on getting those things to make some torque
anyone worth their salt in the realm knows that WOT / dyno is not the measure of a tuner.. neither of these guys should be glorified or damned based on the outcome.
-gimmie a good cold start up, or a hot restart
-lemme see what happens when i turn on the a/c
-how bout the mileage.. did it go all to hell or improve?
-does it make it down the track?
me personally i'd have just turned up the boost, its way more fun than fooling with tables
..set the a/f to 11 then timing to 15 and turn up the GD boost
now something remotely interesting would be seeing these guys strategies on getting those things to make some torque





