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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by duder
It is as accurate as is statistically possible. No other presentation of data can be more accurate unless there were studies where every motorcyclist in VA was interviewed about the frquency in which they ride and whether they know of people who ride without a license or a rgistered bike. In that case a motorcyclist can simply lie about the frequency in which he rides and would most likely lie about knowing people who rode illegally. My point is that you can debate the finer aspects of statistical data all day long because it is an endless circle of what ifs. I think what you're meaning to say is that the data has a small margin of error that accompanies all statistics.

An argument based on fallacy would imply that it contains no truth and this data though minorly flawed contains a sufficient amount of accuracy to prove my point.
bravo duder, bravo
Old Jul 25, 2008 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by duder
It is as accurate as is statistically possible. No other presentation of data can be more accurate unless there were studies where every motorcyclist in VA was interviewed about the frquency in which they ride and whether they know of people who ride without a license or a rgistered bike. In that case a motorcyclist can simply lie about the frequency in which he rides and would most likely lie about knowing people who rode illegally. My point is that you can debate the finer aspects of statistical data all day long because it is an endless circle of what ifs. I think what you're meaning to say is that the data has a small margin of error that accompanies all statistics.

An argument based on fallacy would imply that it contains no truth and this data though minorly flawed contains a sufficient amount of accuracy to prove my point.
Where did you get that idea than an argument based on a fallacy has no truth? Have you ever even looked at the definition of a fallacy?

fal·la·cy Audio Help /ˈfæləsi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[fal-uh-see] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -cies.
1. a deceptive, misleading, or false notion, belief, etc.: That the world is flat was at one time a popular fallacy.
2. a misleading or unsound argument.
3. deceptive, misleading, or false nature; erroneousness.
4. Logic. any of various types of erroneous reasoning that render arguments logically unsound.
5. Obsolete.

The statement was misleading because it makes the assumption that every registered motorcycle equals a rider when in fact it does not.

As I already stated all that the math proved was as follows.

The correct statement with the facts that were provided is that less than 1% of registered motorcycles in the state of VA are involved in fatal accidents in the state of VA.

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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedJunkie
It registered and insured. He just doesn't ride it.
What kind of bike is it. If its just sittin in his garage wasting his money I'll take it! lol
Old Jul 25, 2008 | 05:55 AM
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What kind of bike is it. If its just sittin in his garage wasting his money I'll take it! lol
Its not for sale.
Old Jul 25, 2008 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedJunkie
Its not for sale.
Why though? if its just sitting in his garage and has not hit the streets in TWO YEARS?! doesn't seem like it makes much sense to just have it getting old, devaluating, and being wasted right? Could ya ask for me if you don't mind?
Old Jul 25, 2008 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by chappe
devaluating
this made me laugh...
Old Jul 25, 2008 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by naMfOrelliK
this made me laugh...
de·val·ue (d-vly) also de·val·u·ate (-vly-t)
v. de·val·ued also de·valu·at·ed, de·val·u·ing also de·val·u·at·ing, de·val·ues also de·val·u·ates
v.tr.
1. To lessen or cancel the value of.


woooooo!!! I WIN!!! lol You actually made me check dictionary .com after posting that... I did a "oh shit did I just pull a Bush..." lol
Old Jul 25, 2008 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by NoRider
de·val·ue (d-vly) also de·val·u·ate (-vly-t)
v. de·val·ued also de·valu·at·ed, de·val·u·ing also de·val·u·at·ing, de·val·ues also de·val·u·ates
v.tr.
1. To lessen or cancel the value of.


woooooo!!! I WIN!!! lol You actually made me check dictionary .com after posting that... I did a "oh shit did I just pull a Bush..." lol
LOL at you thinking I was talking about that not being a word...or even the definition...so you don't win. sorry.
Old Jul 25, 2008 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by naMfOrelliK
LOL at you thinking I was talking about that not being a word...or even the definition...so you don't win. sorry.
Then what were you talking about?? lol
Old Jul 25, 2008 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by NoRider
Why though? if its just sitting in his garage and has not hit the streets in TWO YEARS?! doesn't seem like it makes much sense to just have it getting old, devaluating, and being wasted right? Could ya ask for me if you don't mind?
Not everything is about money... The bike has sentimental value to him. Not everything keeps going down in value either... At a certain point they start going up in value.



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