you dont have to teach him hes just asking man if no one wants to do it then dont do it he doesnt need harrasment out of it anyway gl on finding someone moneys a bitch thats for real

 

i can talk you through it if you want 757-237-4037 the names hunter
if not get real close to your honda manual

 

I'm more inclined to agree with Mr. Brauning. Yes, you can probably slap it together, and get it to run. And it may run okay for a while. But doing it right is difficult, and requires a lot of investment in proper measuring tools and such.

A dial bore indicator, and a micrometer large enough to read the piston size, are a must. This is to ensure the piston to wall clearance is within spec. Neither of those tools come cheap. Further, you need a hone, and at the very least, a lot of practice with the drill (ideally, a machine!) and a full set of stones, to achieve the proper sizing and finish for the bore, to get the correct clearance.

You'll of course need plastigauge to even ensure you're close on bearing clearances. More ideally, you measure everything, then double check with plastigauge. If it's not right, you have to hone the inside surface of the rod journals, or machine the crank journals to a size tolerance that is correct. All of this is just very, very basic, and doesn't get into any of the advanced stuff, such as knowing the right clearance to run, to get the best combination of life and longevity with the oil of the viscosity for which you wish to run, etc. It's basic stuff every machine shop does (or should do) on every rebuild, just to get it within the factory tolerances. God forbid you wish to actually improve things!

So, no offense to the O.P., but Mr. Brauning is 100% correct. Building a motor is a very difficult task to do properly, and the gentleman didn't ask "can you help me slap it together and pray it's right?" He asked if someone could teach him to build it, and for a very low price......It's extraordinary really!

And for the O.P. Get some plastigauge. If you don't know what it is, quit now. Check your clearances. If they're within tolerance, you're probably okay if you're not going high performance. Then, just assemble it according to the FSM. Make sure you torque the bolts, make sure they're lubricated when you do so, etc. It's all basics, just not as simple as some people want to believe!

 

Thanks HondaRules, I see you understand the "Nature of the Beast". You know, I know of several shops that don't have a clue about what you described.

 

hate to say it but i agree with QUICKVIII. it takes a lot of time and precision to build a good motor. i beleive it can be done by someone with little experience if that person studies up on what their doing a lot. with whatever you decide to do good luck.

 

The name is BOND, James Bond

I'd love to hear the phone conversation if 1 of them did call the shop and ask for you

 

the only helpful advice i got from this post. the rest was bullshit

thats what i would do. get the parts ready to install from a shop. then do it ur self from there. you should get the block and everything checked out anyway. why not go the extra mile and get everything ready to install from them. thats what we did, got the block honed and hot tanked. got bearings fitted and numberd to the rods. rings straightend up and color to the correct piston, ect ect... wasnt that expensive and saved a lot of guess work and i knew that every part is cleaned measured and fits correctly. gotta spend the money somewhere. its also pretty easy if you have the factory manual.
wish i could help you more

 

I'm not saying that I can't build a motor, but you won't find many around here that will want to build a motor for someone outside of friends. Unless they are charging.

I have a friend who builds motors and gets bashed heavily for it, he's on here and it is rediculious. I crack jokes, but it is taken way too far.

And if you do get someone to build it. And it does spin a rod bearing or smokes its ass off. Don't immediately blame the builder. I hate that shit. With a BIG passion. Check how you broke it in, what tune/basemap it was on and what components you used.

 

Yeh that could be a riot Ronnie!

Yeh Tre, But what do you do when the machine shop screws up. Years ago I had a case where I got back a block that #3 piston wouldn't even fit in the hole in the block. Now to ad insult to injury I sent it back, waited for it to be fixed and returned. Great, guess what. It still didn't fit the hole. So you guys go ahead and keep trusting in everyone else! Thats what separates the real engine builders from the percieved ones! I also know of a guy who once installed 83mm pistons in a 84mm bore. Now who's fault was that? The machine shop for supposedly overboring it incorrectly, or the "Engine Builder" who put it together! Point made. The final responsibility falls on the builder! I guess the difference between you and me is the fact that you would then blame the machine shop and not yourself, right? Sorry I'm not trying to be an ass, but you guys who assemble engines are not engine builders. There is a difference even if you think it isn't "rocket science". Let's have a show of hands.... Seriously... Anyone who thinks he can build an engine on the same level as a Top Fuel team, A NASCAR team or any other top level COMPETATIVE team in the country, please respond with a thumbs up. The math alone would be over 95% of your heads, It's not easy to succesfully design and build an engine, but it isn't hard to just bolt one together. You would be suprised how much you can screw up and the engine still run, although not for long. It's one thing for everyone to want to help out here, thats why we have this forum. But know your limitations, and don't screw with the ones who do know what they are doing. Sometimes it's a fine line between knowing and not knowing. If you don't know, leave it alone. Now I want to commend the OP here, he is honest enough to admit he doesn't know what he is doing. So don't insult him by saying it's easy. He knows it's hard, others here just don't know it.

 

I agree with Mr. Brauning as well. It always amaizes me how many people think they are experts of something they've done once. There is a big difference between an engine builder and a parts assembler. If you are looking for performance and longevity, etc, you need your motor assembled by a engine builder, not slapped together by a parts installer. "what do you mean by properly align the thrust bearing?" is a scary thing to hear from someone who build their own bottom end... And I've heard that twice this week!