my moms on the ches. city council or some shit like that.. she knows all the city officials. im sure she'd back me if i asked.

 

took ya long enough, ya fuckin hippie.

 

Anybody think that maybe some of the BIG local Car Dealerships might be willing to help us out with this? Hall, Casey, Freedom, Charles Barker, Pomoco? Couldn't hurt to ask. I work for Pomoco in NN and could pass the idea around to some of the bigwigs. We really do need this. Just reflecting for a couple of minutes, I rememer hearing about or witnessing several terrible accidents as a result of street racing. Anybody remember the wreck on Victory Blvd in NN about 2 1/2 years ago with the TT300Zx hitting two or three other cars head on at 90MPH? I'm sure everyone remembers a similar mishap. I'm all for this, I just don't know what I could do to help considering how busy I already am. But I will ask around about the idea to some of the Pres. of my company. I would just need help with a proper proposal. Pomoco just dropped $1,000,000 for the naming rights to CNU football stadium, so you never know till you ask. I would appreciate any input for a proposal.

 

i'm already working on Casey. i'm trying to set something up with them. i know a few people associated with Casey. once i get something rock solid, i'll post an update. i'll also continue research tomorrow, and make a few more calls.

 

that would be like a few hundred dollars an hour to have ems/emt at the track?

i dont know how realistic my idea is, but



what if a whole bunch of people were to buy some car stuff(maybe even one thing)from one major company and help to promote them? maybe in return the company can help fund the track and have the first track in the 757 area. just an idea.

 

I can tell you all about it. The track was actually in Creeds which is south of Pungo down Princess Anne Rd. The entire thing was built on the main runway of an abandoned WWII runway. This is a WWII era picture of the place:

Creeds Airfield

I don't know exactly when the drag strip opened up, but I think somewhere around 1970 or so. The deal was that the entire place was owned by the city of Virginia Beach and they would give track operators only a short term lease on the property. They basically could come along almost anytime and say "your lease is up". And they did do this at least a couple of times. This was the downfall of the place. Nobody would spend the long term money to do major improvements with the possibility of the city comming along and saying "You are out" and the next track promoter getting the benefits of the previous owner's investments.

The track was 1/8th mile and in all honesty the runoff room was a little short. It was run as a 1/4 mile track for a short period, but they had a few bad accidents because of the length of the track.

The last promoter tried to develop and entire motorsports park at the place. He included ATV racing, Mud Bog (FWIW that is where the Grave Digger monster truck got it's start), sand and mud drags, and even promoting some autocrossing with and eye towards the remote possibility that there would be a road racing track (which was part of my involvement). This was somewhere around 1980 or maybe a few years later. The drag racing was every sunday with an additional street car night on Wednesday, and whatever other events going on on the Saturday.

He got help in upkeep from the local ATV racing people, autocrosers, etc. in volunteers, but one day the city came along and kicked him out basically because the police really wanted a training ground. I talked to some of the police afterwards about it and in all homesty they were rather arrogant about it all (I am a police supporter in general, so I don't say that lightly). They were sort of proud of ousting all of those "car freaks" so they could go there and shoot their guns, have persuit schools, woods type terrorist training, etc.

Here is a sattelite picture of it today:

Creeds today

If you zoon out one notch you can see how much runway is there. The slightly darker strip in the middle of one of the concrete runways is the part that was asphalt paved for the drag strip. I actually have a color picture out there somewhere that I have seen available on the web. Off the concrete is fairly overgrown today. It could be turned into something useable today, but it would take a selling job to the city. It would never hold an NHRA national event, but it could be a decent small track that could be developed into something useable.

Please don't confuse this with the old airstrip in Pungo that all of us autocrossers autocross on. It is not the same place. Pungo in its current state could really not be used for drag racing, but I have contacts with the owners of the place. I could get you in touch with them. PM me if you are interested in Pungo.

 

That would make a sweet little road course........lets make one of those instead

 

I think if we keep our efforts public, and every sticks together and goes though with this.. fund raising might help, to keep money towards building.. even though it would be ALOT of money to raise. but keeping this in the public eye, show that we do car and aren't all reckless asssholes could bring people to want to sponsor it.

 

.

 

Well, If we go for fund raising, my past experiences tell me that the whole sticker and t-shirt thing works, I'll buy one if we go that route. Just a thought.