Detailing the classic mini
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Re: Detailing the classic mini
Dude you obviously don't know shit about detailing paint. Google wet sanding car paint.
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Re: Detailing the classic mini
I am using a variable speed buffer...the scratches on the car arent serious enough to warrant wet sanding (usually reserved for heavily scarred clearcoat/paint) but if i have scratches id like to take out i have a more aggressive orange pad and i use prima Cut to take out the scratch then follow with the white pad and prima Swirl.
wet sanding wouldnt have cured the large amount of crap that was sitting on the paint...in fact it would have exacerbated it...i buy my products and get my tips and advice from a pro detailer friend in LA...he has seen and corrected alot of fucked up paint before...
http://www.showcardetailing.com/
wet sanding wouldnt have cured the large amount of crap that was sitting on the paint...in fact it would have exacerbated it...i buy my products and get my tips and advice from a pro detailer friend in LA...he has seen and corrected alot of fucked up paint before...
http://www.showcardetailing.com/
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Is that the original paint (which I don't think it is)? If it is, IMO it would be worth wet sanding. If you really want to do it, I'll help you. I'm stationed in EL Centro, about an hour east of you.
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Re: Detailing the classic mini
dude the last thing he wants to do is revert to wetsanding an entire car and removing more clear after its been cured and probably already done when it was painted. Hes doing it right, washing, claybarring, polishing, waxing. That's how it should be done. let him be. Any of that peel or texture you're seeing might not even be in the clear, could be in the primer or the sealer or base depending on who sprayed it and such. They could have already wetsanded and buffed that entire car and removed all the texture from the clear. If you go sanding it well you would just be wasting your time and removing clear when you can just do a proper detail on it. Leave him to his car.
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dude the last thing he wants to do is revert to wetsanding an entire car and removing more clear after its been cured and probably already done when it was painted. Hes doing it right, washing, claybarring, polishing, waxing. That's how it should be done. let him be. Any of that peel or texture you're seeing might not even be in the clear, could be in the primer or the sealer or base depending on who sprayed it and such. They could have already wetsanded and buffed that entire car and removed all the texture from the clear. If you go sanding it well you would just be wasting your time and removing clear when you can just do a proper detail on it. Leave him to his car.
Looking good milano.
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Re: Detailing the classic mini
it isnt the original oe paint however it is the original color...it isnt a very early model so it came with a multi-stage paint when i took ownership...so the clear was stripped and a fresh coat of paint added before it was recleared then wetsanded and buffed before i took control of it again...the problem is if you just wet-sand the paint instead of just a less abrasive claybar and buff...you will eventually strip all of the clear off...the orange peel in the paint is just how these usually look upclose...maybe down the road i would have the car stripped down to bare metal and redone...
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if it was the original paint,then your suggestion of wetsanding and buffing is even more ridiculous on a car with single stage paint. Just saying. You have to be really balsy and a fantastically skilled detail man to wetsand a single stage paintjob in the first place, one that is really old like if this were original paint even more so. Sanding clear and buffing it is touchy enough, doing that to single stage would be a worrisome nightmare as you can burn that shit so easily. If it was a freshly painted car, than I would agree. Sand and buff the entire thing. But thats on fresh clear, cured old clear is not fun to buff after its been sitting for 5 years. But agreed, its his car, hes doing it right and doing a good job at it.
it isnt the original oe paint however it is the original color...it isnt a very early model so it came with a multi-stage paint when i took ownership...so the clear was stripped and a fresh coat of paint added before it was recleared then wetsanded and buffed before i took control of it again...the problem is if you just wet-sand the paint instead of just a less abrasive claybar and buff...you will eventually strip all of the clear off...the orange peel in the paint is just how these usually look upclose...maybe down the road i would have the car stripped down to bare metal and redone...
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if it was the original paint,then your suggestion of wetsanding and buffing is even more ridiculous on a car with single stage paint. Just saying. You have to be really balsy and a fantastically skilled detail man to wetsand a single stage paintjob in the first place, one that is really old like if this were original paint even more so. Sanding clear and buffing it is touchy enough, doing that to single stage would be a worrisome nightmare as you can burn that shit so easily. If it was a freshly painted car, than I would agree. Sand and buff the entire thing. But thats on fresh clear, cured old clear is not fun to buff after its been sitting for 5 years. But agreed, its his car, hes doing it right and doing a good job at it.
Rail dust. It had a sand paper feel to it.
My test area of wet sanding
The finish product
My single stage paint bumper after wet sanding the orange peel.
With the Porter Cable it is actually really easy to do. I don't have to worry about burning the finish. I do this as my second form of income.
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Re: Detailing the classic mini
well, we will just agree to disagree. You feel good doing it, than tits up for you ha. I think single stage is less forgiving as so much of the color can come off depending on what your trying to sand out, a piece of dirt, a sag, orange peel etc etc and if you aren't careful you will end up with a light spot in the paint job if you sat on a spot too long and removed a little too much pigment.. I would much rather polish clearcoat as you aren't effecting the color unless you whoopsy and burn the clear. I personally hate single stage paint, even the good stuff unless it is topped with 2 coats of clear. I refuse to spray it in the past and still refuse to spray it today. I would rather stick with base/clear but that is simply a preference. Mainly cause if you fuck up during single stage well than you're fucked and have to do the entire panel over again. If your're using clear and you get a run or sag or whatnot, relatively easy to correct with a block, some 1500-2000 grit and a buffer.
Yes, I do it as a second form of income as well....body and paint, that of course includes sanding and buffing.
Of course where it differs is Im usually sanding and polishing fresh fresh paint and rarely deal with cured cars, unless Im doing a side job at the house or polishing up my own cars. But I don't need to worry about sanding cured paint since I can usually just claybar and buff to a perfect finish.
I guess its simply just preference.
Yes, I do it as a second form of income as well....body and paint, that of course includes sanding and buffing.
Of course where it differs is Im usually sanding and polishing fresh fresh paint and rarely deal with cured cars, unless Im doing a side job at the house or polishing up my own cars. But I don't need to worry about sanding cured paint since I can usually just claybar and buff to a perfect finish.
I guess its simply just preference.